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Originally Posted by Lurking Shadow Ok i see how the greyhawk setting might not allow the dragonborn or tieflings right now, but what about when all the settings get updated, what happens then do we stay like we are or do we go with the flow. seriously a tiefling with horns and a tail is a big difference from a fireball slinging pit feind, and now that tieflings are Pc's it might be easier to integrate a reason why they no longer need to be disguised (they were at least partally accepted by society?) |
Is it really that different? From a normal mortal's perspective, tell me the difference between a
4E tiefling and a
4E devil that would make a tiefling seem like someone you'd welcome into your town without a single Drizztism about having proven himself. If you believe it, prove it.
And they're accepted in the
4E quasi-setting (which isn't even fully there as originally presented, but that's another matter) because of a setting-specific civilization that once existed, and even then, they're stated as being exceedingly rare. The
4E tiefling has an utterly separate and distinct backstory from what the name has meant for the better part of the last 20-25 years; it's no longer a reference to someone with a fiendish ancestor and a bit more of that fiendish blood than their peers, but the descendant of a group of long-gone warlocks that made pacts with the new, also
4E-specific, devils... and looks fiendish for some arbitrary reason (a curse, to be precise).
Now, if you have a reason the tiefling would be welcomed into a normal, xenophobic town, let's hear it after being filtered through the "We know that your kind has been cursed for trafficking with devils in the past" coloured lenses. Still confident in them being viable without spitting on the setting's 30-year flavour?
Do you honestly think that a race that looks like devils because of an ancient curse laid down on them for serving devils would be accepted in a setting with a population that goes out of its way to shun or kill anything that isn't known to be good? Do you think they'll ask questions before shooting something with 18-inch long horns and a five-foot long tail, glowing red eyes, red-scaled skin, and fangs? Really? And the Dragonborn? Considering that they had to shoehorn them into the Realms by transplanting an entire nation over an existing one, I don't even want to consider the pillaging that Greyhawk would be in for.
Greyhawk may be the only setting that doesn't get disemboweled by the
4E hatchet-man, and that's only because Gygax's passing is still so fresh in gamers' minds. The
4E Realms are already known to not be the Realms anyone knows, and have probably been the greatest hotbed of anger from fans that are upset by the new edition's arrival. I'm not holding my breath there, but really, if they change the setting's flavour that much just to conform to a sophomoric new edition of the game, they'd be making a bigger mistake than I can properly explain.