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Old 28th October 2002, 09:56 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Redux...

This is GREAT! Very cool. This is really starting to look like it's going to work. Nice job.

I, of course, have some comments.
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Originally posted by BlackJaw
Initiative: as Pilot -- They don't react, the pilot does.
Yes. Correct.
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AC: Pilot's Dex. Mod. +4 -- Armor class (-16 size, +10 natural, + 10 armor) applied to the Dex modifier of hte pilot. Some feats (dodge) and bonuses (insight) apply too.
Hm. Are we abandoning the notion that Piloting can use Wisdom instead of Dexterity for some vessels? I would argue that a sailing ship's AC can be affected by the actions of its captain, so if the captain's skill involves Wisdom then perhaps a vessel AC may be modified by either Wisdom or Dexterity?
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Special Attacks: Ram 64d10 -- This is a not a normal attack (IE slam) but it is an attack the vehicle, not a vehilce weapon, makes.
Right, so one quality that the "vehicle" type modifier possesses is the ram attack -- all vehicles get this attack. For a creature a ram attack is just a normal attack.
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Saves: Ref as pilot -5 ... as a vehilce the reflex save is the pilot's minus the handling modifier
Great solution. Brilliant.
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Abilities: STR 40, DEX as Pilot, CON -, INT -, WIS as Pilot, CHA as Pilot -- pilot is the Dex score, Str is by engines/size, as construct it has no INT or CON, but what about WIS & CHA?
A Construct may have an Intelligence score. It also has Wisdom and Charisma scores (though those may be 0, of course). A 747, for example, has Intelligence, Wisdom and Charisma of 0. However, Zaphod Beeblebrox' Heart Of Gold definitely has stats for all three. If I remember correctly. A vehicle can have a personality without being a creature (for our purposes), you see.
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Alignment: none (object)/as pilot -- do we use the pilot or do we use none?
A vessel might have an alignment of its on, or it might have no alignment at all. Magic items, for example, can have an alignment or not. But no, a vehicle does not take on the alignment of its pilot.
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Vehilce Traits: (including allowing criticals)
Okay, so another trait of vehicles is that they are vulnerable to critical hits. Even if they are undead or constructs or plants. So we have that, the ram attack, the ability to acquire components, the new size categories, the Minimum Speed and Glide Speed ratings, the Handling Modifier, the Crew, Supported and Power ratings, the new AC, Initiative and Reflex Saves, the new Dexterity and the new CR determination system.

Does that define a vehicle?
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