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Old 14th November 2008, 04:00 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Whew! It's been a crazy busy work week. I've finally got a bit of breathing room though so let me address this stuff.

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1 - You mention that the character need to succeed on an Endurance check. What DC have you planned to set? (I figured that ½ level would be added to the DC, so it won't be too simple for highlevel characters to shake the effects?).
There will definitely be a sliding difficulty on the DC's as they rise in level. The non-metagame reason for this is that tougher monsters hit harder and inflict nastier wounds. I've not decided on an exact DC scale but I was planning to use the difficult DC rules based on level listed in the DMG.

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2 - I am not certain I understand the following quote:
"They do not regain full hit points after an Extended Rest. A successful Heal check after an Extended Rest allows them to regain hit points as though they had spent a Healing Surge."
I guess the reason I am confused is due to the second sentence. They do not gain full health, but a Heal check can give them hit points back equal to their Surge Value? And is that amount adjusted by the "affected characters only heal ½ of their surge value (rounded down)"?
The healing gained is whatever their current Surge would heal. Let me see if I can explain this using an example:

Bob is a 3rd level Fighter with a 13 Con. This gives him 40 HP and 10 Healing Surges. He's got a +7 Endurance.

Bob got Wounded in the battle with the Dragon (let's say due to a Crit). At the end of the fight he had 4 of his 40 Hit Points remaining and one Healing Surge left. After the party has a Short Rest following the fight, he spends his last Surge to heal. His surges normally heal 10 but he is Wounded so it only heals half. That gives him 5 more HP and now he's got 9. The party spends the night in the Dragon's lair and takes an Extended Rest.

Bob awakes feeling pretty rough. He's only got 9 HP because he heals none during the Extended Rest due to his Wounded condition. But he has all 10 of his surges back. Now he tries to recover from Wounded.

The DC for this is a 20 (Dragons bite Hard). Bob rolls a 6 and fails to recover. The party Cleric takes a look at him and manages to make a successful Heal check on him and that gets him back HP as though he had spent a Surge. Since his current Surge value is 5 then he's up to 14 HP. Bob opts to go ahead and spend 5 Healing Surges to regain another 25 HP, bringin him up to 39. He's still got another 5 Surges that he can spend throughout the day for another 25 HP so he'll focus on fighting defensively a bit more and hope for the best.

Let's pretend that Bob had instead rolled a 14 and made the Endurance check to recover from Wounded. Then the Cleric made the Heal check on him and Bob got back his current Surge value in HP, which would have been 10. That takes him to 19 HP. He then opts to spend two more Surges, giving him 10 HP each and gets up to 39 HP. Suddenly he's feeling much better and, with 8 more Surges left for the day, he feels nearly like his normal self again.

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3 - You say:
"The PC is not as resiliant as normal and thus their healing surges only restore half (rounded down) of the normal hit points."
You say directly that it is only the affected characters own healing surges that restore half hit points. Is that on purpose or does abilities that doesn't expend an affected characters surges heal the full value?

Thanks in advance,
Neubert.
I'd say that anything that says, "As though (the wounded character) had spent a healing surge" would heal whatever their current Surge value is (i.e. half normal if they are Wounded). If there is a power (and I don't know of one) that says, "...heal another character a number of HP equal to your Surge value." then I'd be ok with it healing the full normal healing.

Thanks again for helping me hash this out.
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