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Old 30th November 2008, 10:28 PM   #263 (permalink)
carmachu
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Originally Posted by catsclaw227 View Post
So the adventure is not up to your personal liking, so therefore the quality sucks? The first Rise of the Runelords AP adventure had print that was too small and the art wasn't to my liking. So does it suck? No, but it wasn't the quality that H1 was, for sure. The adventure was a PRE-RELEASE adventure designed for beginners and those new to 4e. Of course it wasn't going to have the story depth of P1 (which, BTW, is awesome). Comparing H1 to a Paizo AP is like comparing apples to oranges, they're both fruit, but if you cook with them, they accomplish different goals.
I said NOTHING about not liking it. I said its quality was bad. And it is. I'm not alone in that thinking.

Yes the first AP had small print and art that you didnt like. But you have said NOTHINg about the quality of the adventure, which was good.

Quality of H1 as an adventure? Not so good.

No its not. Its only apples and oranges to YOU. H1 isnt even the quality of Red Hand of Doom or Return to the temple of EE. YOU just dont wish to compare them. Both are adventures. Whether one is an adventure path or not is irrelevant. YOU just dont want to make any comparisons.

But irregardless.....H1 was poor quality adventure. Both RHoD and RtTEE both beat it in quality, as do many of the game mastery/pathfinder modules from paizo, as do more than a few Necros adventures.


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Ahhhhhh.... so in business, if I need to put something off for a customer because I have other PRESSING priorities, then I don't care about my customer? That's highly simplistic and could be considered a downright strawman. Just because they haven't executed on the GSL yet, doesn't mean that they don't care about the 3PP. I am not a 3PP, I cannot speak for them, but the ones that have spoken out on the boards say that, while the current GSL doesn't meet their business goals for publishing 4e content (due to some restrictions, current OGL product lines, etc..), many have said, on this board no less, that the gang at WOTC does care and that when Scott get's it done, they'll look at it. Maybe not said in the same post, but said nonetheless.
Whats so pressing beyond DDI?

You keep saying that the gang at WOTC CARES. So again I'll reiterate my question: show me.

I can point to all Wotc's actions and inactions regarding to the GSL. The vast majority show the opposite in fact.

But lets go back to the pressin matters. Yes, it does show your lack of caring to my customers, when you put them off. YOu show them that their concerns arent a priority.

When I put off my customer to do something else, or help someone else....yes they do feel like I dont care. its business 101.

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You can buy what you want. That is the nature of capitalism (unless you live in a country that tells you from whom to buy things). You can speak with your wallet. Excellent.

But that has nothing to do with whether Scott's priorities are such that the GSL revision takes second fiddle right now. It doesn't mean that he doesn't care about the 3PPs.
I absolutely believe that Scott cares. But Scott isnt WOtC. And Wotc as a whole? Doesnt care. Their actions and in actions show it.
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