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Old 3rd December 2008, 10:00 PM   #145 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by The Little Raven View Post
What is the definition of "old guard" you're using? Why wouldn't it apply to people like Rich Baker and Bill Slavicsek, who predate most of the people laid off since 2000? Why would it include David Noonan, but not Andy Collins (who has been there about as long)?
If you look just two sentences before the one you quoted, you'll see that I was referring to a larger perspective than just yesterday's layoffs. Dave wasn't old guard by anyone's definition (that's no slight against him). From my point of view, old guard is Skip Williams, Penny Williams, Jeff Grubb, Steve Winter, and John Pickens (all but one of which has been laid off by the company). And those are just the people who made the move to WotC. My definition also includes people like Zeb Cook, Paul Jacquays, Dave Sutherland, and Doug Niles, whom I was fortunate enough to work with at TSR. And even with all that, it's still a young perspective.

Bill and Rich started at TSR not all that long before I did. Thus, stretching the definition, as I said, because it would then have to also include me. Which seems silly. Not in a "ooh, I'm getting old sort of way," but a "wow, there's hardly anyone here who remembers working on 2nd edition, let alone 1st" sort of way.
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