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Originally Posted by Regicide

How it returns is magic, fine. But Blinding Burst, with or without a magic weapon can easily mean 36 shots with a crossbow in a round, an effect that is so spectacular it's silly that, yes, you're right, can only be explained by magic... but last I checked rogues aren't a magic class.

blinding barrage not burst (had me searching the phb, for a similar power that allows attacks out to a weapons range)

Originally Posted by keterys

God of War came out in March 2005
Returning Weapons were in D&D 3rd edition in 2000
Xena Warrior Princess came out in 1995
Wulfgar's returning hammer in the Crystal Shard was 1988.

I can't check earlier editions cause they're all packed away, but I'd not be surprised if there is a 1st edition version of a returning weapon.

I was tempted to dig out my soft covers and see if dwarven thrower was in there. 2nd edition had axe of hurling circa 1988-89 I think. Advanced dnd definitely had +3 dwarven thrower on top of hammer of thunderbolts and that's from 1979 or 80.

Originally Posted by FadedC

Hmm....you mean if there were flying enemies stacked on top of the ground enemies in every possible space. Yeah I guess that's possible, though potentially unlikely is a bit of an understatement. Still can't hit 36 though, it's pretty clear that Regicide's complaints are based on a some form of misunderstanding of the rules.

And yeah I agree with you on justification. If there was a tightly packed group of 9 people, you could easily injure them all without having to fire 9 actual shots.

It's only a matter of time before a feat is introduced that expands blasts or bursts, so regicide's post was simply foreshadowing a blast 4 version (that could hit still only hit 16 targets)

Originally Posted by Piratecat

There was. Hammer of Thunderbolts was a 1e returning weapon.

yup, definitely in advanced dnd not sure if it was in the just plain dnd.

Originally Posted by FadedC

And of course the hammer of thunderbolts was based off of Thor's hammer from norse mythology.

Ancient norse mythology was a total rip off of Xena though......

definitely... I think they went to see an oracle who predicted xena exactly. Nostradoofus