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Originally Posted by SWAT

I ruled that the wizard's actions counted for the challenge and could provide successes. But what's the intent of the system with regards to such actions that don't directly affect the outcome. I understand that information gained from a knowledge check can help succeed at a challenge, but should the knowledge check itself also count as a success, or should it be done outside the segment framework?

I think others answered your question recently but I'll give you my take. Moreso in my system than in the core I encourage DMs to push their players into using skills that make sense for the challenge. In this case, it sounded fine that the wizard wanted to heal the player...but then ask him what he wants to do to help the challenge?

If your sneaking through a camp and the player says that he makes a history check to contemplate the kings of old...that doesn't do anything to help the challenge and wouldn't be a check. If he says that he contemplates the plight of King Solos the Swift...who was forced to sneak through his own back countryside to escape rebels that had taken over his castle....now we're talking!