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[Aus_Snow]

Originally Posted by aboyd

Well, I would note that in order to get a curse down to level -5, a person typically is getting murdered or has seen his own children slaughtered by his wife/brother/cousin. So level -5 spells may be "free" but they are nearly impossible to spam.

Confession: I've not (properly) read through The Practical Enchanter, just skimmed it. So, ah, I was being a little presumptuouis to begin with. Ah, well. Oh, and let's perhaps add 'inaccurate' or 'irrelevant' while I'm at it. In fact, I hadn't even read your solution, first of all, hence the hasty edit.

Hm, probably about time I gave that freebie - and its sibling, whatever that's called again - the read they deserve. . .

Well, here is my thinking. ---snip---

Yeah, that makes sense. I also forgot to mention (ahem) that my house rules are pretty darn different from 3e standard issue, in that (just for starters) magic of any kind requires a kind of 'gateway' feat*, characters (including NPCs and beings in general) get more feats - including more at 1st level - and, oh yeah, everything starts off with some XP (yep, even PCs). Hm, and the Sorcerer pays for expensive material costs with (less) XP instead. . . Ack, everything's different, come to think of it. Well, so many things, I just plain forget sometimes the 'little' changes like those, that might conflict in interesting ways, when discussing how I do things, how I might prefer to do things, and how most people might be doing things. Gah.

Anyway, in the other thread they're talking about Ravenloft's curse system, and apparently the Ravenloft Player's Handbook is still available on RPGNow (because it wasn't actually a WotC property that they could remove). So maybe I'll have a look.

Haven't read through that one very thoroughly either (and don't own it) so, no idea how it compares.

It's good to see someone thinking about worst case scenarios, whatever it is you end up using, btw. Because, sure as heck, that's what a PC, sooner or later, will do to your lovingly crafted house rules. But it seems you know this, so yeah, good.


* Which is exactly what I would also require for curse-type stuff, if that makes my rambling clearer.