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Old 29th June 2009, 12:03 PM   #9 (permalink)
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but the biggest problem is that Ed greenwood himself endurces and helped push this out..If you find his interview at the Tomb you will find a story he tells of the PCs being held by a king and about to be excuted...then elminster barges in and tells the king he must speak with him privatly right awya ((Of cource what king would dare refuse the sage of mary sue)) as el and the king went to a private room El winked at the PCs and motioned for them to run away...

Now just to put this in perspective this was his idea of el being 'played right' by the DM.
Slightly OT - These tales of Ed - in his own words, usually - always make wonder to what extent his players can actually have enjoyed his game. It just seems so appallingly bad GMing. I also wonder about the thinking in TSR at the time they chose Ed and his setting to be, effectively, the new face of TSR, replacing Gygax and Greyhawk. Was this deliberate, moving away from Gygax's pseudo-malevolent GMing & rather bleak setting? Did they not know, or think, about the implications of what we now call Mary Sue-ism? Did they think "Well it's like Gandalf, saving the hobbits. No fun if your hobbit gets killed..."?
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