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By that logic, any MBA granted by a Warlord is the Warlord causing damage/reducing enemies to 0 etc, and should trigger relevent effects.
you are confusing narrative reality with mechanics... and thinking the narrative should enforce the mechanics.. with the above. But I do realize below you were right about it not conforming to "without hitting them at all"

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What does the damage is what caused the damage in DnD
"caused" is the key part of that... phrase ... causation doesnt need to be direct. What caused the damage is the power... ;-) not the object. The bat might enhance the effectiveness of the power... without touching the enemy.. and in fact ... the definition of hit point loss means that much of the time "nothing at all" directly even touched your enemy... not even the element that "mechanically was used in the attack"

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Hence why I felt his example didn't fit the stated requirements. Especially as the stated requirements were "without hitting him" not even "without hitting him with the baseball bat".
Oh I see... without hitting him didnt fit the visualization since this visualization included the knee as pretty much you hitting him...
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