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Old 5th May 2008, 03:40 PM   #381 (permalink)
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I've begun placing up completed .pdfs of the preview class powers at Tintagel's Site. I am planning on doing full sets for each class in 3 different styles (Quindia's, Randolph's and LordTirian's). Each set will also be further broken down into a page of cards without backs for those who only want to print a single sided card, as well as a page with card backs for duplex printing. Each card on the page is 3.5" x 2.5" (standard magic card size) and will thus fit card sleeves easily. This is pretty time consuming so it might take a few days to get all of the classes done.
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Very nice Tirian. I particularly like the gradient on the attack buttons and the dark purple for the daily power. I never really liked black as a daily color.
Well, for the attack buttons - your template inspired me in this regard. And for the black: Yeah, it usually ended up looking grey - so I took a page from my mini painting and remembered that you don't shade black with white (i.e. just lighter colour), but rather with bluish-purplish colours.

@Khaalis: Pretty cool that you do that! I'm looking forward to seeing it!

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Old 5th May 2008, 06:01 PM   #383 (permalink)
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Don't know how many people even care, but I fixed two of the damage icons in my style and borrowed tintagel's idea for the attack icons - setting them on a metallic background and setting the arrows to be transparent.

Poison and Psychic, respectively.

EDIT - I saved my XCF file from the GIMP and saved it as a PSD. Both are in the below zip.
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Old 5th May 2008, 07:59 PM   #384 (permalink)
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I've begun placing up completed .pdfs of the preview class powers at Tintagel's Site.
What do you use to output MSE to pdf?

On a related note, I printed out some of my power cards for the first time last night for a short session. They were printed with a color HP printer on regular paper, cut out with scissors, then slipped into M:tG-style tournament sleeves along with an Exodus land card each for some rigidity. They looked, felt, and worked great I'll put up some photos tonight.

I ended up printing them out with the actual numbers though, i.e. "+6 vs. AC" and "1d10 + 5 damage" instead of "Strength vs. AC" and "[w] + STR damage" because it often isn't just "[stat] vs. [defense]," but rather "[stat] + [proficiency bonus] + [level bonus] + [enhancement bonus] + [feats] + [class features] vs. [defense]" and "[w] + [stat mod] + [enhancement bonus] + [feats]." I know that it might end up being a huge pain to reprint every level-up or equipment change, so I probably won't go that route. I'll probably just use the "actual numbers" version for the pregens for demo purposes, and print the "undefined variable" version for regular use come June and the PHB.
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Thanks in advance for your work on this. It'll really help those of us with little talent and/or less time.

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I've begun placing up completed .pdfs of the preview class powers at Tintagel's Site. I am planning on doing full sets for each class in 3 different styles (Quindia's, Randolph's and LordTirian's). Each set will also be further broken down into a page of cards without backs for those who only want to print a single sided card, as well as a page with card backs for duplex printing. Each card on the page is 3.5" x 2.5" (standard magic card size) and will thus fit card sleeves easily. This is pretty time consuming so it might take a few days to get all of the classes done.
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Old 5th May 2008, 09:46 PM   #386 (permalink)
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What do you use to output MSE to pdf?
Me personally or in general?

In general you can do it two ways.
1) Use a print to pdf software like CutePDF and export to print right from MSE. However, I find that this does NOT make cards at the correct size for whatever reason. They always comes out too small. Thus...
2) I personally make a Word template made up of correctly sized table cells and import the .jpg files into the table, size them correctly, then save the file as a pdf (since I don't actually have a copy of Acrobat.


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I tend to find that just printing right onto 110lb. cardstock works the best for me. I might still look into sleeves but since the cards are cheap to produce I'm not that worried about it. (I haven't played Magic in a few years and sold all my cards, so I don't have cards to use for stock nor any sleeves laying around anymore.)

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I ended up printing them out with the actual numbers though, i.e. "+6 vs. AC" and "1d10 + 5 damage" instead of "Strength vs. AC" and "[w] + STR damage" because it often isn't just "[stat] vs. [defense]," but rather "[stat] + [proficiency bonus] + [level bonus] + [enhancement bonus] + [feats] + [class features] vs. [defense]" and "[w] + [stat mod] + [enhancement bonus] + [feats]." I know that it might end up being a huge pain to reprint every level-up or equipment change, so I probably won't go that route. I'll probably just use the "actual numbers" version for the pregens for demo purposes, and print the "undefined variable" version for regular use come June and the PHB.
Are the card sleeves able to have Dry Erase markers used on them? If so, this could allow you the "quick number" access you are looking for without reprinting all the cards.
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This thread is coolest I've seen in a long time!

Lord Tirian, Could you post your cards in .psd?
I would like to tinker with them, if you don't mind of course.
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This thread is coolest I've seen in a long time!

Lord Tirian, Could you post your cards in .psd?
I would like to tinker with them, if you don't mind of course.
Here you go!

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Old 6th May 2008, 04:20 AM   #389 (permalink)
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Lord Tirian(or anyone else who knows how), the font you are using in your example is quite nice, I've downloaded your little package there, but I cant seem to get it to work(the font I mean, I just get the big block style). Am I doing something wrong? (I'm just pasting your files into the MSE data file).

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Lord Tirian(or anyone else who knows how), the font you are using in your example is quite nice, I've downloaded your little package there, but I cant seem to get it to work(the font I mean, I just get the big block style). Am I doing something wrong? (I'm just pasting your files into the MSE data file).
You need to place the fonts that are in the zip folder that you down loaded into your windows font folder.
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Ah, yes, thank you, I should have read the preceding pages a little better.

Also is there a way to change the font size?
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Just wanted to say that I heart the MSE templates very much. I've been playing around with them a bit so if you're looking for further feedback I'll need a day or two to find something to gripe ab- er, mention.

Also a small note to Tintagel: MSE complains about missing "D&D-symbol.mse-symbol-font" if you install using just your BASE .zip archive found on the website. I'd suggest including that from here on, as it took me a little bit to go through the thread to find the archive with that in it. ><

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Khaalis' Update 1 @ educatedgamer.net

1) Updated the previous Cleric and Fighter cards to reflect the changes to the 4E_PrRC_v2.3.
2) Added Paladin, Ranger and Rogue card sets (Quindia, Randolph and Tirian sets; both with and without card backs).
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I am really appreciative of the work done on these cards, especially as my efforts were not very good.

I was however wondering if there was a plan to add "Trolls" cards to the Database on educatedgamer.net as I like his the most?

Is the obstacle to this the fact that (as far as I can tell) "Trolls" cards are not in MSE format?
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They are - search for randolph's latest update... there's the Trolls template as well.

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I think some of us are wanting them to be added in the pdf, not as a template.
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I think some of us are wanting them to be added in the pdf, not as a template.
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Is the obstacle to this the fact that (as far as I can tell) "Trolls" cards are not in MSE format?
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I was directly answering to that:


Cheers, LT.
I understand now...

Also are there updates to Tintagel's PDFs?
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RL has been keeping me busy, so no new updates. Almost done with all the art for the DDXP pregens' powers though (Ghost Sound forced me to get creative).

@ Tintagel: If you'd like, next time I have a chance, I can attempt to adapt your template so it's compatible with the MSE game file the other templates use. Also, regarding your "rules text/flavor text aligning to the middle" issue - this can be dealt with by using the rules text and flavor text fields (you need to enable editing from the game file) instead of the combined text field. Doing this also gets you a number of other side benefits, like having partially overlapping fields (to take into account some cards having far more rules or flavor text) and differently shaped/proportioned rules vs. flavor text fields.

@ Lord Tirian: I can include your template file into the main package, if you'd like.

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In general you can do it two ways.
1) Use a print to pdf software like CutePDF and export to print right from MSE. However, I find that this does NOT make cards at the correct size for whatever reason. They always comes out too small. Thus...
2) I personally make a Word template made up of correctly sized table cells and import the .jpg files into the table, size them correctly, then save the file as a pdf (since I don't actually have a copy of Acrobat.
Cool, thanks. I'll try one or both options.
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I tend to find that just printing right onto 110lb. cardstock works the best for me. I might still look into sleeves but since the cards are cheap to produce I'm not that worried about it.
That's an interesting idea. I kinda see these cards (the ones made from pre-PHB-in-hand assumptions) as "too disposable" to print on cardstock, but if it's an inexpensive option, they'd certainly be nice.
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Are the card sleeves able to have Dry Erase markers used on them? If so, this could allow you the "quick number" access you are looking for without reprinting all the cards.
That's a cool idea... Ooh, or cut-to-size dry-erase overhead-projector transparencies! Write on the transparency, slide it into the card sleeve as an overlay over the card! This way, I can actually just leave the fields on the card blank.
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@ Lord Tirian: I can include your template file into the main package, if you'd like.
Sure, go ahead! Note: You might want to fix the use of white text on the silver template. It's partially impossible to read.

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