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Old 13th October 2008, 06:49 PM   #1161 (permalink)
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A favor to ask to all the card developers, esp Ander00 and Hirahito.

I love the cards, and the colors and designs are great, but I'm a black and white printer person, as I assume many folks are. Can folks include a basic, non-fancy, pretty much black and white version in the future?

I didn't see a version like this, and I'll be honest, I don't really know how to use the MSE very well, so if you already have, and I am missing it, I'll be happy for a little re-education.

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No promises. But I think I have what you need in the next version of my set.

I have an option called 'Use alternate backgrounds' which switches Red to 'Blood' and Blue to 'Water' and green to 'Grass' (and so forth). The important part of that being; when you print these in black and white, it should still be easy to distinguish blood from grass.

I have something similar to that now if you look at the 'FLASHY' version of my current (4.3) set.

Take a look at that and see if it solves your B&W problem.

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Old 14th October 2008, 12:23 AM   #1162 (permalink)
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For printing with MSE or in PDF, is there any way to use sheets from Avery products instead using standard card stock sheets?
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Dragon #368? I don't think so. I can see you guys (meaning the users of my cards) are going to force me to buy the Dragon and Dungeon subscriptions. You are, don't lie about it. I can hear you guys already...
Not true. If you actually release the code for the card generator, then some of us might just generate a set of cards from a particular Dragon and make them available. That way other folks can use them, or they could be included for download as well.

I am not swearing it will happen, but it is much more likely to happen
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Printing cards to PDF is a royal pain in the arse...
Amen to that! I do the same thing you do -- export the images and then import those images into a word processor to print them out. That way I get the ones I want.

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Needless to say, over 3000 cards does not make a small PDF file.
Hey, I told you a while ago to break that beast into smaller pieces and have them available as separate downloads.

That way if someone is playing a dwarven cleric, they can download the cleric cards, the race cards, and the action cards and be ready to go.

If you discover a problem with the keys for the barbarian, you just have to generate a new set of barbarian cards, and those who are playing the barbarian just have to download those cards to get the update, without having to download all the Adv. Vault cards, Dragon cards, etc. along with it.

As more splat books are released and more articles are printed, this issue is only going to get worse. I know you currently generate a monolithic file, but it would not take that much to rewrite the generator to create mutliple files from the data based on keywords or some other field (such as the source field for instance)
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Old 14th October 2008, 03:54 AM   #1165 (permalink)
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Here are the Genasi racial powers using Grandpa's template.
Fabulous! Seriously! I've added them to the main card set post.
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For printing with MSE or in PDF, is there any way to use sheets from Avery products instead using standard card stock sheets?
I believe you can export the card as an image.

Then open up MS Word (or Open Office) and load in the proper Avery template (you can download them from their web site).

Then paste the images into the template for printing.

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Old 14th October 2008, 06:01 PM   #1167 (permalink)
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Not true. If you actually release the code for the card generator, then some of us might just generate a set of cards from a particular Dragon and make them available. That way other folks can use them, or they could be included for download as well.

I am not swearing it will happen, but it is much more likely to happen
I'm scheduled to release the C# proggy with the 4.4 release. I've been hesitating to do so because it's really not intuitive at all to use and I don't want to have to answer 1000 questions on how to get it to work.

I'll probably slap a small document together explaining how to operate it with a huge 'Use at your own gwave pewil!'

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Amen to that! I do the same thing you do -- export the images and then import those images into a word processor to print them out. That way I get the ones I want.


Hey, I told you a while ago to break that beast into smaller pieces and have them available as separate downloads.

That way if someone is playing a dwarven cleric, they can download the cleric cards, the race cards, and the action cards and be ready to go.

If you discover a problem with the keys for the barbarian, you just have to generate a new set of barbarian cards, and those who are playing the barbarian just have to download those cards to get the update, without having to download all the Adv. Vault cards, Dragon cards, etc. along with it.

As more splat books are released and more articles are printed, this issue is only going to get worse. I know you currently generate a monolithic file, but it would not take that much to rewrite the generator to create mutliple files from the data based on keywords or some other field (such as the source field for instance)

The current program DOES split it up by category. I tried doing that for the 4.0 release and found it to be a giant, knobby, puss-filled pain in the ass. So I'm just releasing the MSE-SET separated from the template files and updating each separately.

Compromise.

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Old 15th October 2008, 06:01 AM   #1169 (permalink)
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The current program DOES split it up by category. I tried doing that for the 4.0 release and found it to be a giant, knobby, puss-filled pain in the ass. So I'm just releasing the MSE-SET separated from the template files and updating each separately.
Even split up by category, that is a BIG list. Have you thought about separating powers and items into separate sets?
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Even split up by category, that is a BIG list. Have you thought about separating powers and items into separate sets?
As I mentioned previously, my proggy currently splits it via: Information, Powers, Optionals, Items... and something else (which I forget).

I can start doing it this way again - it's just so much easier (for me) to do it as one monolithic MSE-SET.

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Wow this thread is seriously big.

I've made cards for my group but I did it on the Magic Card setting with MSE before this thread exploded/blossomed...

Now looking through I've download many of the beatiful templates people have worked on but I find myself a bit lost

I seem to understand there is a way to take Tintagels template and use it with the MSE, however I extracted those templates into my MSE Archives but it had no effect. Im not sure what I'm meant to do to get these templates added to the MSE list of available ones...

On page 20 or so of this thread Tintagel placed a link to a tutorial video on youtube but thqt video has been supressed.

Does that tutorial exist somewhere else? Can someone IT clued give me a MSE Template installment for Dummies run down of the steps to take? Or if that info has already been answered on this thread and my bleary eyes have missed it can someone post a link...

If anyone can help I'd appreciate it. Cheers.
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I've been working on some of the warlock cards using Grandpa's templates (Dark Pact from the FRPG and the Star Pact additions from the Dragon 366 article). If no one else is already working on them, I'd be happy to share once I'm finished.
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I've been working on some of the warlock cards using Grandpa's templates (Dark Pact from the FRPG and the Star Pact additions from the Dragon 366 article). If no one else is already working on them, I'd be happy to share once I'm finished.
Please do! Particularly the Star Pact stuff from D366, that'd be awesome!
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I believe you can export the card as an image.

Then open up MS Word (or Open Office) and load in the proper Avery template (you can download them from their web site).

Then paste the images into the template for printing.

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That's not what I meant. I mean that I notice in MSE the print preview shows 9 cards per page and was wondering if there Avery style pre-cut pages for 9 card-size sections?
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That's not what I meant. I mean that I notice in MSE the print preview shows 9 cards per page and was wondering if there Avery style pre-cut pages for 9 card-size sections?
I'd be surprised if Avery didn't have one.

Check out the Avery site and see if they do.

I know for a fact there is a company that makes pre-cut playing card sheets in 8 and 9 per page formats.

I haven't tried messing with MSE to get the cards to print on them yet (though I seriously want to) - it's all a matter of money (and the lack thereof).

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Here's the first draft of the power cards from the warlock article in Dragon 366. Please send comments, corrects, and suggestions my way.
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That's not what I meant. I mean that I notice in MSE the print preview shows 9 cards per page and was wondering if there Avery style pre-cut pages for 9 card-size sections?
Greetings...

A very costly alternative does exist. It may not be appropriate (nor cost effective), but it does exist.

FedEx/Kinkos will outsource the creation of specialized pre-cut paper or cardstock to fit the printouts. You would just need to bring them a sample page or two, pay whatever the cost is, and wait the appropriate time.

I am not advocating this alternative; if Avery doesn't have the necessary template, then scissors work fine for me.

Until that time...
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As I mentioned previously, my proggy currently splits it via: Information, Powers, Optionals, Items... and something else (which I forget).

I can start doing it this way again - it's just so much easier (for me) to do it as one monolithic MSE-SET.

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Just some quick feedback as I don't see it mentioned. The Dzokvik template seems to be partially broken for the 4.3 release. With the Dzokvik template, the first 'bubble' has the type of action and that's working. But the second bubble is supposed to be attack type and I believe the third is damage type. That's currently not working.

Am I doing something wrong, or did something change where the template isn't quite right with the new release?

Great card sets by the way. Awesome attention to detail.
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Great Job to every who has uploaded their files.

It has given me the urge to 'create' my own sets.

Create = 'Borrow' heavily from the thread.

I'd like to thank the people I have 'borrowed' from in advance.



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Thanks muchly! That's some fantastic work. I've added them to the main card post.
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