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Version 1.1
Aug 25/08
- Fixed Religion Int/Wis issue, minor edits.
- Moved class/race features to page 2
- More space for feats on the 1st page
- Coming soon (as requested -Wonka) a powers sheet alterntitive for those who don't wish to use power cards.
Feedback and suggestions still welcome and encouraged!
Last edited by Foxman; 26th August 2008 at 01:25 AM..
This sheet is absolutely phenomenal. I am partial to landscape for, well, pretty much everything I do, so this sheet is right up that alley. I love the look of it, and at first glance there appears to be plenty of room for almost everything. The only suggestion is allowing more space for feats. You get a lot of feats at 30th level, and there just doesnt seem to be alot of room for all of them. Granted im not sure how many people will make it all the way to 30th level and all those feats, but it could be possible soon. That is a minor gripe, everything else about this sheet i love! My new favorite sheet. I will be moving my chars over to this sheet asap. Please give your wife my thanks for this sheet, and please tell her she did a great job with it. I also have a suggestion: a 3rd sheet in the same style that is just a powers page, for those people who dont use power cards it would give them space to write down the crunch of their powers in more detail than the quick boxes on the front page (though those are perfect for the main sheet!). Im also working on making a fillable version of the PDF, and if you and your wife dont mind Fox Ill post it here. It wont have any auto calculations, but it would be fillable for use as a computer sheet for those who do such a thing.
* with some better info.. I could totally make a third powers page.. and making it fillable is awesome!!
* also note that I expect to make more changes when they put out the next books.. and with future feedback..
* as for the Feat feedback.. what does he think of moving the Class/Path/Destiny Features to the second page (as there is plenty of room to move things around there) and just making that whole section for Feats?
* I could move Valuables & Gems over to replace Session Notes and put the Class/Path/Destiny features in that first columen.. and adjust Campaign Notes to be Campaign/Session Notes
Just a note from me We are using MS-Visio to build this in
* with some better info.. I could totally make a third powers page.. and making it fillable is awesome!!
* also note that I expect to make more changes when they put out the next books.. and with future feedback..
* as for the Feat feedback.. what does he think of moving the Class/Path/Destiny Features to the second page (as there is plenty of room to move things around there) and just making that whole section for Feats?
* I could move Valuables & Gems over to replace Session Notes and put the Class/Path/Destiny features in that first columen.. and adjust Campaign Notes to be Campaign/Session Notes
Just a note from me We are using MS-Visio to build this in
Not sure what MS-Visio is, but i've heard of people using it for things like this before! For the feats, i think that will work perfect. When you get a feat every 2 levels, that space will fill up fast. Making that whole section for feats would be enough space i think. Then move Class/Path/Destiny to the 2nd page as you mentioned, putting them where Valuables/Gems is and combining the session/campaign notes. I know for my notes, I use a seperate sheet of notebook paper, as I take WAY to many notes to ever fit on my campaign sheet, but some people do use them.
As far as the power page goes, what i mean is just have like 10-15 "blank" power boxes, with spaces to fill in the name, type, action, defense, range, book and page reference, etc, as well as a big space for description. I know not everyone uses power cards, and this way people who dont can have ALL the details of their powers written out instead of having to goto the book all the time. http://www.neceros.com/forum/index.p...ads&showfile=5 There is a link to an example of what I mean. Something like that in the style of your sheet would be a nice extra. Id definatly add it as its own file, and not a 3rd sheet, as not everyone would use it.
EDIT: noticed something while working on auto-calculations, Religion is marked as being a Wis skill on the sheet when it is infact based on Int.
Last edited by Wonka; 8th August 2008 at 04:45 AM..
Ok, here is version 1 of the fillable sheet. It took me a bit longer because i decided to mess around with making it auto-calc some things. It will auto calculate Fort, Ref, Will defenses, AC (but you have to put in your abil mod or not), skills, and ability modifer values. Let me know if you see anything wrong with the calculations, this is my first time messing around with such things. Hope this is useful to someone besides me Ill update the forms as new versions of the sheet come out too.
Ok, here is version 1 of the fillable sheet. It took me a bit longer because i decided to mess around with making it auto-calc some things. It will auto calculate Fort, Ref, Will defenses, AC (but you have to put in your abil mod or not), skills, and ability modifer values. Let me know if you see anything wrong with the calculations, this is my first time messing around with such things. Hope this is useful to someone besides me Ill update the forms as new versions of the sheet come out too.
I love the look of this sheet. First bug I spotted:
In the AC calculations, adding a number to the enhancement or either of the misc. fields does not auto-calculate the correct AC number, i.e. entering a 1 under enhancement changes the AC of chainmail from 17 to 171!
Edit: same thing happens under skills when entering anything in the misc fields. When I enter my armor penalty of -1, it reads 3-1 instead of 2.
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Last edited by derbacher; 9th August 2008 at 02:14 PM..
Reason: Found new bug.
I love the look of this sheet. First bug I spotted:
In the AC calculations, adding a number to the enhancement or either of the misc. fields does not auto-calculate the correct AC number, i.e. entering a 1 under enhancement changes the AC of chainmail from 17 to 171!
Edit: same thing happens under skills when entering anything in the misc fields. When I enter my armor penalty of -1, it reads 3-1 instead of 2.
Yes I found this too. For whatever reason, if any box before is empty and then you have a value, it will not add correctly. Lets use the situations you pointed out as an example.
For AC, assuming a level 1 character, you have your 10+1/2 lvl with a 10, then ability with a 0, then armor with a 7 for scale, then a BLANK in shield and feat and you put in a 1 in enhancment it goes 171 right? If you put zeros in the shield and feat boxes, it works just fine. Same thing with skills. Put a zero in the trained box, and the other misc box if you are using the right most misc for armor penalty, and the value add correectly.
I have NO idea why its doing this, as blank spots are supposed to be auto assigned a zero when calculating, and am looking into it. The quick fix is to manually put a zero in any blank boxes you might have for skills and defenses. I am trying to figure out why its doing this, and Im open to suggestions Im new with this, and pretty much used other auto-calculating sheets I have and looked at how they did it to figure this out, so Im not sure my methods I used are exactly right. Thanks for bringing this up however, it was mere chance that i even found this bug out. So if you find any more keep em coming! Hopefully ill post an updated sheet soon.
My wife is working on an update, as I'm going to GenCon it likely wont be available till after then.
Oh man, I dont know if I can wait that long! I kid, I kid. Have fun a GenCon, Ive never been to one and would love to go, but I cant afford it right now.
Oh man, I dont know if I can wait that long! I kid, I kid. Have fun a GenCon, Ive never been to one and would love to go, but I cant afford it right now.
LOL I won plane tickets at DDM qualfier which is the only way I can afford to go
Nice! Well have a good time. If your wife just happens to be able to put out an updated version before you head off, well that would be swell too If not Im sure Ill make it a few more days, right? I also still have no idea why the sheet is doing what its doing for the fillable weirdness
Last edited by Wonka; 10th August 2008 at 10:36 PM..