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When you enter a weapon on the attacks page that is an implement for a swordmage and that weapon is a magic weapon with an extra bonus on a critical, does the bonus damage for the critical apply for spell attacks with keywords including implement and not weapon?
The XP Version is giving the critical damage from swordburst and flame cyclone as XX + 1d6 where the "1d6" is the bonus from a critical with the weapon.
I am not sure if this is correct. If it is not, then this is another bug. If it is correct, then no problem.
Bug with Critical damage included when a weapon is used as an implement
I have given this some thought and my conclusion is that the critical damage from a melee weapon which is used as an implement is not appropriate when a spell with a burst, blast or range deals damage and a critical has been rolled. Therefore, this is definitely an error or a bug in the character sheet.
I have given this some thought and my conclusion is that the critical damage from a melee weapon which is used as an implement is not appropriate when a spell with a burst, blast or range deals damage and a critical has been rolled. Therefore, this is definitely an error or a bug in the character sheet.
Even staves, wands and orbs add this critical damage. There is no reason a weapon used as an implement should not.
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Even staves, wands and orbs add this critical damage. There is no reason a weapon used as an implement should not.
i agree, the description of magical staffs (240 & 241 of the PHB) says that they apply to both melee attacks and powers that use the staff as an implement. by that logic, a longsword used as an implement should apply all the benefits that it would get on a melee attack (happy day, swordmagi!)
I have given this some thought and my conclusion is that the critical damage from a melee weapon which is used as an implement is not appropriate when a spell with a burst, blast or range deals damage and a critical has been rolled. Therefore, this is definitely an error or a bug in the character sheet.
17. When you are using a magic weapon as an implement, like a Holy Avenger or a Pact Dagger, what benefits do you get from the weapon?
You gain any bonuses listed under Enhancement, Critical and Property.
The Charsheet I shows Resistance 5 Fire, 5 Lightning, 5 Cold when the character is a genasi firesoul. It should only be 5 Fire.
If you choose Akanul as a home region which confers Resistance 2 cold, fire and thunder, the Charsheet I shows resistance 7 Fire (correct), 5 Lightning (incorrect), 2 Thunder (correct), 7 Cold (incorrect).
You can not edit the fields for item bonuses or Misc bonuses like you were able to in past editions. I am using wiesbaden_charsheet_v1_16_Full.xls character sheet. Seems to affect the wiesbaden_charsheet_v1_16.xls as well.
Great sheet over all guys.
--- edit. Nevermind, I missed the section on the extra bonuses tab.
Last edited by nytecoldawn; 11th October 2008 at 06:46 AM..
Hi ya! Once again a wonderful tool.
Any updates on the next version? Will it include the FRPG and Adv Vault? Or are you waiting (which would make sense) for Martial Power?
Two Notes on v1.5:
1) The Alchemy feat does not count when you select it (the formula stops @ 221) and it pulls the text in from the Dragonborn Zeal Feat, instead of the text it is suppose too.
2) Custom Feats do not get counted on the feat page, so it can throw off the count. (I used it for Moon Elf Resilience).
Questions/Enhancements:
On the Pro CharSheet tab, can you add Ability Check Column Next to the Ability Mod Column. I believe this is enough room and you can link it from CharSheetI.
Also on the Pro CharSheet Can you Add the Attack bonus next to the ability? I think you can make the Ability smaller to fit the bonus.
Thank you again for a wonderful tool, please keep up the good work!
PhantomAOJ
Hi ya! Once again a wonderful tool.
Any updates on the next version? Will it include the FRPG and Adv Vault? Or are you waiting (which would make sense) for Martial Power?
Two Notes on v1.5:
1) The Alchemy feat does not count when you select it (the formula stops @ 221) and it pulls the text in from the Dragonborn Zeal Feat, instead of the text it is suppose too.
2) Custom Feats do not get counted on the feat page, so it can throw off the count. (I used it for Moon Elf Resilience).
Questions/Enhancements:
On the Pro CharSheet tab, can you add Ability Check Column Next to the Ability Mod Column. I believe this is enough room and you can link it from CharSheetI.
Also on the Pro CharSheet Can you Add the Attack bonus next to the ability? I think you can make the Ability smaller to fit the bonus.
Thank you again for a wonderful tool, please keep up the good work!
PhantomAOJ
The current version is 1.16c i believe. Check for it at post #183 or so of this thread. Try it out and then post any problems that you have.
And yes great job to the people creating this. They are doing a good job and have quite a few good beta testers to help them find bugs it seems. yay for the general public
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I just saw the update on the heroforge site and the only problem I've run into is that the 1_17_XPVersion gives me the errors of too many formats, just liked the 1_17_Full.
the 1_16_XPVersion does open, so I will see if it still has the magic bonus bug and report back.
Thank you all for the response and the new sheet.
PhantomAOJ
Update: yes sadly the bug of adding the magic bonus is still exists in the 1_16XPVersion, but does seem to be only for damage.
Everything else is great!
thanks again!
Last edited by PhantomAOJ; 13th October 2008 at 12:46 AM..
Reason: Update on v16 Magic Bonus Bug
I just saw the update on the heroforge site and the only problem I've run into is that the 1_17_XPVersion gives me the errors of too many formats, just liked the 1_17_Full.
the 1_16_XPVersion does open, so I will see if it still has the magic bonus bug and report back.
Thank you all for the response and the new sheet.
PhantomAOJ
Update: yes sadly the bug of adding the magic bonus is still exists in the 1_16XPVersion, but does seem to be only for damage.
Everything else is great!
thanks again!
Yes unfortunately I am getting this error as well.
Is there anyone out there that is an Open Office guru that would be willing to work with this team on putting out an Open Office version as well. Since these sheets are still buggy in OO?
But love the sheets.
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Der Magische schaden von Waffen wird bei den Angriffen doppelt zum Schaden zugerechnet.
Nutze das 1.16 cheat und habe einen Warload mit Langschwert.
Vielleicht könnte das Jemand bitte ins Englische übersetzen, ich wüsste nicht, wie ich das schreiben soll, das es auch in englisch verständlich ist.
Mein Deutsch ist schlecht, aber ich danke Ihnen.
According to Google Translate, you're talking about the weapon magic item bonus appearing twice, I think?
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I have an older version of Excel and the new versions wont work in it as I stated above. I also have Open Office. What I did was open the full version of the sheet and let it sit and load for a few minutes (that lets it propagate all the drop downs). I went thru and corrected a few spelling errors here and there and hid some sheets I wont ever use. I then saved it as an open office document (about 1/6th the size as the xls doc). It works fine for me and have not seen any problems with it as of yet.
Correction - It still does not show the +2 to damage for spears for Eladrin
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I have an older version of Excel and the new versions wont work in it as I stated above. I also have Open Office. What I did was open the full version of the sheet and let it sit and load for a few minutes (that lets it propagate all the drop downs). I went thru and corrected a few spelling errors here and there and hid some sheets I wont ever use. I then saved it as an open office document (about 1/6th the size as the xls doc). It works fine for me and have not seen any problems with it as of yet.
Correction - It still does not show the +2 to damage for spears for Eladrin
if you are using a version older than 2007 then you should be using the xp version and xp extra's sheets...they are working just fine. the full version was built on 2007 and designed for 2007
if you are using a version older than 2007 then you should be using the xp version and xp extra's sheets...they are working just fine. the full version was built on 2007 and designed for 2007
The 1.17 XP Version is not working fine. Running it on Excel 2003, it gives repeated "Too many formats" errors as well as issues with the macros. 1.16 and earlier had no issues with the XP version that I Found. I also run 2007 on another machine, but have not tested the 1.17 Full version yet.
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