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Old 6th August 2009, 05:46 PM   #81 (permalink)
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I made a fairly powerful wizard (untested) by sampling some character powers. I actually think this guy would be quite fun in a fight, with some tweaking. He feels more like a wizard from past editions because he's going to cast multiple spells the party probably won't expect.

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Old 6th August 2009, 06:26 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Twilightwaits, how about something along these lines….

Bugolith mark 1 Level 5 Solo Skirmisher
Huge Aberrant Beast XP 1,000

Initiative +8 Senses Perception +8, darkvision
HP 248; Bloodied 124
AC 21; Fortitude 18, Reflex 20, Will 17
Resist 10 acid
Saving Throws +5
Speed 6, climb 5 (spiderclimb)
Action Points 2

Mace Swing Cleave (Standard; at-will)
Attack +10 vs. AC; 1d10+4 damage; on hit creature may cleave a
secondary target for 3 damage

Leg Slam (Minor; at-will) 2/round
Reach 2; attack +8 vs. Reflex; 1d4+3 damage; on hit target is either
knocked prone or pushed 2 squares (Bugolith's choice)

Double Swing (Standard; recharge ) while bloodied only
2 attacks; attack +10 vs. AC; 1d10+4 damage; if creature hits two
different target with this attack then it may cleave a third adjacent target
for 6 damage

Acid Spit (Standard; at-will) acid, cannot use while bloodied
Range 10/20; attack +8 vs. Reflex; 2d6+4 acid damage; on hit target
takes 5 ongoing acid damage (save ends)

Weakened Acid Spit (Standard; at-will) acid, only while bloodied
Range 10/20; attack +8 vs. Reflex; 1d8+4 acid damage; on hit target
takes 3 ongoing acid damage (save ends)

Acid Spray (Standard; recharge ) acid
Close blast 3; attack +8 vs. Fortitude; 2d8+4 acid damage; on hit target
takes a -1 penalty to speed and AC defence (save ends both); on miss
half damage

Acidic Cloud (Standard; encounter) acid, zone
Burst 2; attack +8 vs. Fortitude; 3d6+4 acid damage; hit or miss creates
a zone that lasts until the end of the encounter; all creatures entering or
starting their turn inside zone take 5 acid damage

Mighty Leap (Move; recharge )
Bugolith leaps (shifts) 6 squares as a move action, this move may take it
through enemy squares but it must end in clear space

Abominable Resilience (Immediate Reaction; encounter) Bugolith
receives an effect that a save can end, recharges when first
bloodied
Bugolith makes a saving throw against the effect as an immediate
reaction, this power recharges when the Bugolith becomes bloodied

Combat Advantage
Bugolith deals an additional 1d6 damage with its Mace Swing Cleave and
Double Swing powers against creatures granting it combat advantage

Alignment Unaligned Languages common
Skills Athletics +10, Endurance +9
Str 16 (+5) Dex 18 (+6) Wis 12 (+3)
Con 14 (+4) Int 6 (+0) Cha 3 (-2)
Equipment heavy mace
I think it needs sneak... otherwise, it looks good.
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Old 6th August 2009, 06:44 PM   #83 (permalink)
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I made a fairly powerful wizard (untested) by sampling some character powers. I actually think this guy would be quite fun in a fight, with some tweaking. He feels more like a wizard from past editions because he's going to cast multiple spells the party probably won't expect.

First off, I need to ask you, how well does the beta of the new monster maker work? Is it worth switching from the asmor monster maker?

Secondly, this guy is totally overpowered. His damage output is variable (usually high); and all he has are encounter and daily powers (3 daily 2 encounter) after his at will attack. As well, I don't think monsters get dalies.

To fix it just change 3 or 4 of them to recharge powers, cutting the power waaaaay down.

What I would do:
Eliminate Acid Claw and Howling Hurricane

Make fireball recharge on a or , reduce the burst to burst 2, and make the damage 3d8+5.

Change magic missiles to deal 1d8+5 damage after he's bloodied.

Make serpent swarm 3d10+5 poison damage and no burst, ignoring all cover and concealment

Leave iron to glass as it is.

Give him arcana skill.

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Old 6th August 2009, 07:41 PM   #84 (permalink)
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First off, I need to ask you, how well does the beta of the new monster maker work? Is it worth switching from the asmor monster maker?
100% yes, yes and yes. It is the best program to ever make monsters, but i appreciate Asmor's contribution.


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Secondly, this guy is totally overpowered. His damage output is variable (usually high); and all he has are encounter and daily powers (3 daily 2 encounter) after his at will attack. As well, I don't think monsters get dalies.

To fix it just change 3 or 4 of them to recharge powers, cutting the power waaaaay down.

What I would do:
Eliminate Acid Claw and Howling Hurricane

Make fireball recharge on a or , reduce the burst to burst 2, and make the damage 3d8+5.

Change magic missiles to deal 1d8+5 damage after he's bloodied.

Make serpent swarm 3d10+5 poison damage and no burst, ignoring all cover and concealment

Leave iron to glass as it is.

Give him arcana skill.
thanks for input. Yeah, his damage is high, and that was the main thing i would tweak (especially Hurricane). As for removing powers completely or making them recharge...well, that sort of goes against what i wanted. Each power is only going to work once in a fight (and the Builder lets me add them as Dailies). So, aside from Magic Missile, the wizard only has 4 one-shot attacks. And without worrying about recharge, that is 4 drastically different effects he pulls out of his hat of tricks. Which is what i was shooting for.

Now, assume that your baddie wizard escape and the PCs chase him, well, the Dailies aren't going to recharge for quite a while.

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Old 6th August 2009, 09:09 PM   #85 (permalink)
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Mesh, thats absolutely amazing and awesome. Its exactly what I was hoping for!

Thank you so much. ^^ I'll be sure to check back when they fight it and let you know how it goes.

Just for giggles, though, is there any chance I can get you to share a few pointers for the process behind creating solo's? the few I've brewed up always seem too overpowered when I design them, and wind up being total flops at the table -_-
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Thanks again everyone for the snakes, they went over very well in the adventure. I am currently adding them to the monster builder. It is an excellent tool.

Thanks Asmor for the work you did previously.
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Old 7th August 2009, 09:12 AM   #87 (permalink)
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thanks for input. Yeah, his damage is high, and that was the main thing i would tweak (especially Hurricane). As for removing powers completely or making them recharge...well, that sort of goes against what i wanted. Each power is only going to work once in a fight (and the Builder lets me add them as Dailies). So, aside from Magic Missile, the wizard only has 4 one-shot attacks. And without worrying about recharge, that is 4 drastically different effects he pulls out of his hat of tricks. Which is what i was shooting for.

Now, assume that your baddie wizard escape and the PCs chase him, well, the Dailies aren't going to recharge for quite a while.
I don't want to be too controversial here but I don't think he is overpowered, in some ways he is underpowered.

I get his HPs to be 148 (yours 111)

I get his defences (after elite bonuses)
AC 23 Fortitude 20 Reflex 23 Will 22

he hasn't got any resistances, I would probably give an elite wizard some sort of resistance item, if he was supposed to be the rough equivalent of a PC I would give him some eqipment from the books and give him some abilities based roughly on them. (this means that he has something logical to loot)

General
I get the attack bonuses higher than you.
vs. AC should be +16
vs. NADs should be +14

Magic Missiles
I am a little dubious of him being able to use this attack as an opportunity attack (?) other than that its standard damage, no extra effect and he can make two attacks when bloodied. If anything its underpowered as a level 9 elite should probably have an at will double attack.

Acid Claw
This is not much better than magic missile, in fact it might be worse because it is only 1 attack.

I would change this to 3d6+5 damage and target takes 5 ongoing acid damage (save ends) and all creatures adjacent take 5 acid damage and 5 ongoing acid damage (save ends)

Fireball
I think this should be area burst 2 within 15 squares (your notation is a little hard to follow)

Serpent Swarm
I would make this an attack it could only do when it was bloodied, as a nasty surprise, it would also help pacing. I would consider dropping it to burst 2 but I am not sure it needs that.

Howling Hurricane
As written this power is a little over the top for a creature, especially an elite.
I would make it area burst 3 within 15 squares; attack +14 vs. Fortitude; 2d8+5 damage; creates zone, Wizard may slide any creature starting its turn inside the zone 2 squares, Wizard may move the zone 4 squares as a move action, minor action to sustain

Iron to Glass
Its an interesting power, I don't like the way that it affects a creature rather than a weapon. I would probably go with something a little simpler;

Iron to Glass (standard, recharge )
attack +14 vs. Reflex; on hit targets weapon is transmuted into glass, if the weapon is used it will break and be destroyed after resolution of the attack. (I would then allow some sort of arcane ritual to mend items during an extended rest)

This wizard is obviously meant to be a "named" threat and would be used in an important plot encounter, with that being the case he should be dangerous and memorable. These powers make him dangerous and memorable.

Just my opinion.
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Old 7th August 2009, 09:56 AM   #88 (permalink)
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Just for giggles, though, is there any chance I can get you to share a few pointers for the process behind creating solo's? the few I've brewed up always seem too overpowered when I design them, and wind up being total flops at the table -_-
My general advice for designing solo's.

1: A solo creature needs to be able to threaten multiple PCs, either by having powers that target multiple PCs or by have multiple attacks.

2: A solo should be interesting throughout the combat. One easy way of introducing variety (and therefore interest) is to give it a different selection of powers when it becomes bloodied, in some situation you can also effectively make it a different creature (for an extreme example see my other thread Second Skin - level 20 solo)

3: When designing powers think about attack chains, and how the creature will act in combat. Ideally a creature should be able to concentrate on one threat while harrying or disrupting others, though different solos have different motivations.

4: A solo should have a way of staying mobile or escaping from being locked down. A fight becomes less interesting when a creature is locked down and the PCs just surround it and pound on it until dead.

5: A solo (especially high level solos) should have some sort of defence or reaction to status effects. Again a fight becomes less interesting when the solo is stun locked or dazed for multiple turns.

Applying these philosophies to the Bugolith

1: Its basic melee attack is a cleave so that it can effictively hit 2 targets, it can also make 2 attacks (at reach 2) for minor damage and a control effect (that might also grant it combat advantage for its main attack). It also has birst and blast powers.

2: When bloodied the bugolith can make a double attack, (which I built in motivation to attack 2 different targets so that it can damage a third). I also made its ranged attack weaker when bloodied to encourage it to close in and concentrate on melee.

3: I pictured the bugolith using its legs to knock enemies prone or push them off ledges or into its acid cloud, then using its mace to attack prone creatures. It could also use its blast power in hit and run attacks, using its spider climb to perch in a difficult to reach position.

4: I gave it mighty leap in an effort to keep it mobile, this way if it is surrounded it can leap away and reposition itself.

5: I gave it Abominable Resiliance as a limited status effect resistance.

Anyway I hope this basic commentary helps.
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Actually, it does, Mesh. I greatly appreciate it ^^ Mucho gracias, mi amigo.
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Bone Dragon

I'd like a bone dragon for an upcoming fight. It should be a solo undead, and probably about level 9-10 range. I'm not sure what other role it should be - I'd say probably artillery or skirmisher rather than brute or soldier. I'm using it to replace a (spoiler) green dragon in Thunderspire Labyrinth The group is likely to be level 7-8 when they get there. Despite being made up of tattered skin and bones, it should be able to fly still for the sake of maneuverability. My group is melee heavy (shield fighter, assault swordmage, taclord, rogue, and warlock) and I want to use that against them a bit in this fight. We may have an invoker as well, depending on circumstances.

I was thinking of just reflavoring one of the MM2 dragons, but I'm not sure what kinds of powers it should have. Thanks for the great thread! There's a lot of interesting monsters here.
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Level 9 Solo Skirmisher
Huge Natural Animate (Undead)
XP 2,000
Initiative +9
Senses Perception +12, Darkvision

Chilling Presence aura 3;
All living creatures in the aura take a -2 penalty reflex defense.

Chill of Death (Cold, Necrotic) aura 1;
All creatures in the aura at the start of their turns take 5 cold and necrotic damage.

HP 388; Bloodied 194
AC 23; Fortitude 21, Reflex 21, Will 21
Resist 15 Necrotic, 15 Cold; Vulnerable 15 Radiant
Saving Throws +5
Speed 6 (8), Fly 8 (See Tatters)
Action Points 2

Bite (Standard; at-will) ♦ Cold, Necrotic
+14 Vs. AC, 2d6+5 cold and necrotic damage.

Dead Chill (Standard; recharge ) ♦ Cold, Necrotic
Burst 2, +12 Vs. Reflex, 3d8+5 cold and necrotic damage.

Corrupted Breath Weapon (Standard; recharge ) ♦ Cold, Necrotic
Burst 2 within 10, +12 Vs. Reflex, 3d10+5 cold and necrotic damage.

Roar (Standard; recharge )+12 Vs. Will, the target is Dazed and slowed and takes ongoing 5 (10 when bloodied) cold and necrotic damage.

Tatters (Immediate Reaction, When bloodied) ♦ Cold, Necrotic
When bloodied, The Bone Dragon loses it's ability to fly as it's wings desintigrate (It lands safely if it was flying at the time), all of it's attacks deal an additional 5 ongoing necrotic and cold damage (save ends) And gains the chill of death aura.

Death Throes (None, When reduced to 0 HP) ♦ Cold, Necrotic
Burst 5, +12 Vs. Reflex, 4d8+5 cold and necrotic damage and ongoing 10 cold and necrotic damage.

Alignment Chaotic Evil
Languages Draconic
Skills Diplomacy +12, Intimidate +12
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Very nice, thank you! I like the Tatters ability as a way to make the parameters of the fight change midway through. It makes the group feel like they have accomplished something when they ground it, despite the damage increase.

I'm still thinking about what I want to do with regards to solo monsters and stun/daze powers used against them. I may give it some kind of out so it can lessen the effects of those, or may house rule all solos so they can always save even against "end of your next turn" powers. I don't like the idea that a debuff will last longer if you miss than if you hit with it (EoYNT vs Save ends).

Thanks for the dragon!
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(snip) Subvert Shadow (snip) Control Shadow (snip) Steal Shadow (snip)
Those powers are really clever and full of flavour. Thanks for posting them!

I can imagine a fomorian arcanist of the Feydark or a cleric of Shar (in Forgotten Realms) using similar powers. Very cool. Edit: They would also work well for a necromancer pulling an enemy's soul from its body. Wow.
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Those powers are really clever and full of flavour. Thanks for posting them!

I can imagine a fomorian arcanist of the Feydark or a cleric of Shar (in Forgotten Realms) using similar powers. Very cool. Edit: They would also work well for a necromancer pulling an enemy's soul from its body. Wow.
Do you want anything in the vein of shadow stealing necromancers? It can be done if you want one.

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Thanks, mate. If you want to pump one out I would be delighted to see it.

BTW, thanks in part to the ideas on this thread I have spent a big chunk of today playing with WotC's monster maker. I think I'm in love....
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Okay, i'll try to get around to it sometime today. I might try to get the WoTC monster maker later (I currently use asmor.)

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Level 12 Elite Controller
Medium Shadow Humanoid
XP 1,400
Initiative +10
Senses Perception +15, Darkvision, Blindsense (see shadow control)

Storm of Shadows
aura 3; All creatures that use sight take a -2 to attack rolls.

HP 246; Bloodied 123
AC 26; Fortitude 24, Reflex 24, Will 24
Resist 10 Necrotic; Vulnerable 10 Radiant
Saving Throws +2
Speed 6, see Shadow Jump
Action Points 1

Subvert Shadow (Standard; at-will)
Range 15; attack +16 Vs. Will; on hit the target's shadow makes a basic melee attack against them (the attack uses the owner's current stats)

Control Shadow (Standard; recharge )
Range 15; attack +16 Vs. Will; on hit the target's shadow makes and at will attack against any target in range (using the shadow's current stats).

Steal Shadow (Standard; encounter)
Range 15; attack +16 Vs. Will; on hit target's shadow seems to detatch and shifts up to the owner's speed and then makes an attack using any encounter power that the owner knows against any target in range (using the owner's current stats)

Shadow Jump (Immediate Reaction, when hit with an attack; recharge )
The shadowmancer teleports to the shadow is is posessing with it's contorl shadow power, appearing to step out of the creature's shadow.

Shadow Control (Standard; encounter)
+16 Vs. Will; The creature's shadow grants the shadomancer blindsense from it's space. It has line of sight from and can use any attack it knows as if it was in that space.

Shadow Advantage
The shadowmancer gains combat advantage and deals an extra 1d6 points of damage against any creature it's affecting with it's shadow control ability

Alignment Chaotic Evil
Languages Common, Undercommon
Skills Arcana +15, Diplomacy +15, Insight +15
Str 19 (+10) Dex 19 (+10) Wis 19 (+10) Con 19 (+10) Int 19 (+10) Cha 19 (+10)
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Love it. The shadow jump power is particularly interesting. It might make a really cool immediate interrupt power as well. The only thing is that the stolen/controlled shadows don't have a duration so where can the shadowmancer actually jump to?

Control shadow... should be "owner's current stats", yes?

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No problem Derulbaskul, any time. The EXP is also appreciated.

Here's everything that has been requested and made thus far.
Surprisingly, we missed a few. If I screw this list up somehow, point it
out please.

Finished

Snakes:
Constrictor snake
Viper snake
Snake swarm
Spitting snake
Deathstep asp
Redfang snake (young)
Redfang snake
Brownscale constrictor
Dire snake
Brownscale constrictor (elder)

Mold:
Yellow mold
Brown mold

Pixes
Pixy
Trickster Pixy

Wolverine

Lec-weher

Ki-rin

Necromancer

Stygian golem

Lythlyx


Abat-dolor

Vina wraith

Drow shadow Caster

Drow master Shadow Caster

Bugolith mark 1

Malicious wizard

Bone dragon

Shadowmancer

Necrosis carnex

Mageripper swarm

Void Shard


Unfinished

Quori:
(CR 20) Kalaraq "Eyebinder" quori - nobility and ruling elite [Secrets of Sarlona]
(CR 11) Usvapna "Dream Master" quori - assassins and inquisitors [Magic of Eberron]
(CR 11) Du'ulora "Blackfury" quori - warlords and tacticians [Secrets of Sarlona]
(CR 9) Hashalaq "Dream Stealer" quori - loremasters and judges [Secrets of Sarlona]
(CR 7) Tsucora quori - hunters and soldiers [Eberron Campaign Setting]
(CR 5) Tsoreva "Mind Blade" quori - grunts and enforcers [Magic of Eberron]

Centaur:
Centaur Archer (level 1 artillery)
Centaur Knight (level 2 brute)
Centaur Swordsman (level 1 Skirmisher)
Centaur Mastermind (Elite level 2 controller, Leader)

"Mental disease thingy"

Swanmays

Bird maidens

Pole arm guy

Third level guard

Aleax

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Sporemine Kobold Slinger (Lvl 1)
Mutated cow

Bessie
Level 1 Solo Soldier

Large Aberrant Beast
XP 500
Initiative +3
Senses Perception +6
HP 116; Bloodied 58
AC 17; Fortitude 13, Reflex 13, Will 13
Saving Throws +5
Speed 6
Action Points 2

Kick (Standard; at-will)
+8 Vs. AC, 1d10+3 Damage.

Charge (Standard; recharge )
Bessie shifts 4 squares and makes the following attack, +6 Vs. Reflex, 3d6+3 damage. Secondary attack, +6 Vs. Reflex and the is knocked prone.

Stomp (Standard; at-will, target must be prone)
+8 Vs. AC, 2d6+3 damage

Used to be a cow
Bessie gains +2 to all opportunity attacks

Alignment Chaotic Evil
Languages None
Skills Acrobatics +6, Athletics +6
Str 13 (+1) Dex 13 (+1) Wis 13 (+1) Con 13 (+1) Int 13 (+1) Cha 13 (+1)
Equipment None


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