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In 1E, Assassins could use shields while Thieves could not. Given the crossover of Thief abilities to the Assassin class (climb walls, hide in shadows, move silently, etc.), what was your justification for this allowance? Also, I always found this discrepancy a bit odd for all those Assassins wishing to remain "anonymous" or incognito. "Hmmmm. He's got leather armour, any weapon of his choice, and a shield. He's not a Ranger, he's an Assassin!"
Good refrence question,sure it's true that skills etc are inter twined
for the powers of being an assasin and a sneaky theif,but the answers the DM has for their direct application may vary by just a touch,so that the spread for the skills are now a varied element,so the rationalizaion for a good game is still there....thus when sheilds are used,any class with sword etc etchnique can make a generic claim but not disflavour the totall style of a class....is what i think
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It must be my week to spy things about Lake Geneva.
I was checking the Weather Channel last night for this week's forecast. They had a segment on about the Lake Geneva Bunny Hop. Were you in that long line of Easter bunnies?
Zudrak
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did they forget to lock the old one when they started a new one?
Ken
Ah, you know what? It's my fault. I just assumed (and you know what happens when we do that, eh?) that Part VIII gets continued to Part IX if the former reaches 10 or more pages. I suppose I could have jumped the gun on that one. Just trying to be efficient. Sorry for the confusion everyone.
Since the thread's already started, we'll leave this one as current, but technically a thread doesn't have to stop at ten pages any more - it was a courtesy for server response time left over from about three years ago.
Since the thread's already started, we'll leave this one as current, but technically a thread doesn't have to stop at ten pages any more - it was a courtesy for server response time left over from about three years ago.
You mean, we don't have to keep making new Gary Q&A threads after 10 or so pages?
In 1E, Assassins could use shields while Thieves could not. Given the crossover of Thief abilities to the Assassin class (climb walls, hide in shadows, move silently, etc.), what was your justification for this allowance? Also, I always found this discrepancy a bit odd for all those Assassins wishing to remain "anonymous" or incognito. "Hmmmm. He's got leather armour, any weapon of his choice, and a shield. He's not a Ranger, he's an Assassin!"
Speaking of metagaming....what PC will deduce that an assassin is that because of his equipment? Now on to something meaningful :\
Of course an assassin could not perform thief activities when equipped with a shield, but otherwise in regards their assassinations the shield is not going to prevent success.
Finally, do keep in mind that most of the strictures regarding classes was to make them separate and unique, each a distinct choice that had advantages and drawbacks for a game.
It must be my week to spy things about Lake Geneva.
I was checking the Weather Channel last night for this week's forecast. They had a segment on about the Lake Geneva Bunny Hop. Were you in that long line of Easter bunnies?
Zudrak
Heh...
Not bloody likely. I don't mind having fun, but the activity engaged in was pure foolishness in my estimation At least the crowd was in the grand tradition of the tourists that plague this town each year.
Not bloody likely. I don't mind having fun, but the activity engaged in was pure foolishness in my estimation At least the crowd was in the grand tradition of the tourists that plague this town each year.
I can understand that, now that I'm moving back to Orlando.
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At least the crowd was in the grand tradition of the tourists that plague this town each year.
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