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Old 18th April 2002, 08:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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[OT] Sauron vs Vader...

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After reading about (and trying to get a little excited) over the new upcoming EPII i was thinking who would come out on top after this duel

Its obvious Lucas ripped off Tolkien in his main protagonist for Star Wars by making old Darth a Techno mega Sauronlike figure...

Buth could Old Helmet head beat Sauron?

I think Sauron would take a breath and just suck the puny life out of Tin Blackhead and then squash his pathetic shiny pretty plastic armour under his little finger

Thoughts?

Oh and dont get me started with what Gandalf could do to Old Weezebreath


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Old 18th April 2002, 09:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Depends on if Sauron has the ring.

If he has, he will win. Ok, Vader has done some cool tricks, but I have never seen him throwing around about a 100 enemy warriors singlehanded.
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Old 18th April 2002, 10:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Depends on if Sauron has the ring.

If he has, he will win. Ok, Vader has done some cool tricks, but I have never seen him throwing around about a 100 enemy warriors singlehanded.
A friendship *thwap* with Vader *thwap* is not *thwap* lightly *thwap* thrown *thwap* aside!

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Vader will win

No chance for anyone against Vader. Sauron is a nutter

Vader is the most impressive villain in movie history. He WILL win.
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"The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force."
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Well, I would say Sauron. Vader died. I'm not sure how much damage a dead person can do.
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Old 18th April 2002, 02:22 PM   #7 (permalink)
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It's not really a contest. Vader is, despite his modifications, a mortal. Sauron is for all intents and purposes a demigod. Sauron would rock him! Ring or no ring.
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"The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force."
Sure Vader can use the Force, but where do you think the power of the Dark Side of the Force comes from in the first place?
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Well, in Silmarillion Sauron conquers an Elven stronghold of Tol Sirion by summoning a Cloud Of Terror( or something like this, it is briefly mentioned), surely Vader wouldn`t be able to do something like this.
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Old 18th April 2002, 03:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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"The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force."
The ability *WHADOOOM* to destroy *WHADOOOM* a planet *WHADOOOM* is insignificant *WHADOOOM* next to *WHADOOOM* the power *WHADOOOM* of *WHADOOOM* the Force!

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The ability *WHADOOOM* to destroy *WHADOOOM* a planet *WHADOOOM* is insignificant *WHADOOOM* next to *WHADOOOM* the power *WHADOOOM* of *WHADOOOM* the Force!

*WHADOOOM* *WHADOOOM* *WHADOOOM* *WHADOOOM* *WHADOOOM*
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Old 18th April 2002, 04:26 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I dunno man.

Vader's "come back to life as a lava-lamp hologram" trick is a pretty good one.
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Mmm hmm... I'm sure this topic is going to go over about as well as a 'Trek vs. 'Wars thread.

Anyway, hypothetical power struggles aside, I'll go with Vader, simply because of his unrivaled 'coolness' factor as a villain on the silver screen.
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One quick swipe and that ring finger is gone. No more Sauron.

Now imagine the truly scary!

Vader puts on the One Ring.
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Maybe its just that I've been playing Jedi Knight II alot lately, but it seems to me that the force is really very powerful for short range combat. I mean, if Kyle Katarn can toss a dozen stormtroopers around with the force, think what Vader could do if he wanted to... I'm pretty sure he could toss a hundred guys around without trying to hard. Sauron might be able to summon up a giant cloud, but Vader just needs to defend himself with the force long enough to get in one good lightsaber swing.

Also, Vader has/had a Death Star. Good bye Middle Earth!!! Take that Sauron.
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Mmm hmm... I'm sure this topic is going to go over about as well as a 'Trek vs. 'Wars thread.
Hmm, perhaps we may discuss this in another topic? But I am not willing to open new, useless, OT threads - but I am willing to post some replies

If there was a LOTR D20, we could easily compare the stats of the D20 Darth Vader and Sauron...

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I want only to remember the was a celtic princess who destroyed a moon/small planetoid with one spell/(ritual
Aeron Aoibhell, from Patricia Kennealy's Keltiad series ("The Copper Crown" or "The Silver Branch" is the novel's name). Now there was a lady who would take both Vader and Sauron when in a bad mood.
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I dunno, Vader's got the Vaderbomb and the Vader Splash and all. Nearly put Cactus Jack into retirement. Even if he is in Japan now.

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Wouldn't this duel mostly revolve around hordes of orcs and goblins fighting stormtroopers.
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