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If I had to choose between one or the other, I'd choose B&W hands down. I almost always print off my PDFs, and since I have a B&W printer the graphics don't come out nice.
If stuck with either or i'd have to go with the B&W, Although it seems pretty common for them to come with both versions. I also have a tendance to blow my color ink on the color version anyway.
Originally posted by philreed Do you prefer B&W, very plain PDFs with little to no illustrations and no background or side graphics?
If i can piggy back onto Phil's request, I'm most interested in the side graphics part of the question. Do you like side graphics or would you prefer that the columns were wider so the text took up that space (resulting in fewer pages)?
Originally posted by jmucchiello If i can piggy back onto Phil's request, I'm most interested in the side graphics part of the question. Do you like side graphics or would you prefer that the columns were wider so the text took up that space (resulting in fewer pages)?
What would be nice is that the pdfs where also designed to be printed on A4 paper which is only 21 cms wide (we have a darned big problem getting Letter paper around here in europe)...
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The best thing I can think to do is release my next PDF with two versions in the zipped file. One letter-sized B&W and one A4-sized B&W. I may or may not include some artwork (probably not).
I'll probably have 101 Arcane Spell Components finished in the next week so that one will probably be the test document.
I like the full color, 100% effort, full graphic version because I want to see the quality and creativity of the product, and really get a feel for the material.
I'll probably want to print it, too, so include a printer-friendly version, or a text-only version too.
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I like a version that's black and white without fancy borders (cheap to print). I also like artwork, and in a PDF, I prefer more lines, less shading, again, to save on ink.
The ideal page count is probably right around 40 pags.
Hope that helps,
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Personnaly, I have bought four or five PDF products. I have not printed any of them... well not completely. I tend to only print the sections I need. Since I mostly look at and read my PDFs on screen, I would rather have a nice finished product, in colour if desired, with large enough fonts to be read on screen. Layout should be in two columns well spaced.
Our next PDF products are being bundled as two versions, one LOW graphic (no background graphics, little interior art) and one higher-graphic (background graphic, more art). Both will be included in the same zip file.
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We are running with mostly B/W illos. The only color is the cover, and we are debating on having a couple different versions as well. One designed for screen use and one designed for Print use of at least 150 dpi & like above, included . And then a version in just text without any illos or maps or anything, but that was a bad idea, 40 pages of SOLID text LOL!
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Originally posted by Heathen Oracle One designed for screen use and one designed for Print use of at least 150 dpi & like above, included .
Erm i use 150dpi for screen use and 300dpi for print.
Also a aimple way to make live easy for both A4 users and Letter users is to use the with of an A4 and the height of Letter.
I also saw something from 2WS (or something, book of templates i believe) that had two butons, one to show art and one to hide art. I don't exactly know how he did it, but i suspect some scripting...
Oh i like GOOD art, either B&W or Color, so long as it's GOOD! I also have this strange taste that products without any art are some how 'less' in my eyes than products with art...
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Originally posted by Heathen Oracle What size do your modules average at 300dpi?
I don't really do modules per-se, but i do some layout work so now and then ;-)
It really depends how big a pdf is, depends on complexity of the image, wheter it's repeated, whether is B&W, color or grey-scale, etc.
For a test bed for ESDs i did the Plane Scape players book (36 pages), i think it was something like 3.5MB at 150dpi and 13MB at 300dpi, but i'm not sure (i'll check for you)...
Personally i think pdfs should not contain scripts or music, something to do with file purity...
I'll turn in now, i have the mother of all headaches...
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I prefer pdfs to come in both color and b&w, as others have said. The black & white one, I'd like to be very plain, with wider columns as opposed to art. If I have to choose only one, then I'll take plain old b&w. The one exception: maps. If your PDF includes maps, I want 'em in living color, regardless of what you do with the rest of the product.
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