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Old 3rd March 2005, 09:39 PM   #221 (permalink)
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I concur!

For a Christmas gift in '03 I gave a old gaming buddy of mine a Pogre commissioned mini. He's worth every penny.
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Old 10th March 2005, 06:23 AM   #222 (permalink)
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All pictures are thumbnail link to larger photos.

Here’s a couple of examples of the extreme ends of my painting. The first figure is a character in my D&D campaign named Heinrich. He’s a cleric. Not sure how many hours I have in him as I did him in short spells over a number of weeks:



Those familiar with this Reaper figure can see that I did a major reworking of the shield. I call this a storm shield – it’s supposed to look like a dark thunderstorm around the lightning bolt. I think it looks a bit better in person.



The mummies below are some Crocodile figures I purchased on sale quite a while ago. They were completed fairly quickly – around 100 minutes for the whole lot. I like the results though – the rusty swords turned out very well.



edit: The Reaper figure is 2370: Luther Baldwin. I almost forgot he got a weapon change too.
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Beautful work, as usual! Only 100 minutes for all three? Wow. I'd be lucky if I could do one in twice that, I'd bet. This may be why my players tell me to worry about running the game and writing the plot, they'll stock the dungeons.

Did you do an ink wash on the mummies? I like how the swords appear rusted, as if they were stored in the sarcophagi with them.

Oh, and I really like the grass and flocking on the cleric mini. Really enhances it, I think. (if you ever seen the opening movie to Warcraft 3, with the Paladin signalling the charge of the human army? kinda evokes that sort of image).
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Old 10th March 2005, 05:27 PM   #224 (permalink)
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Beautful work, as usual! Only 100 minutes for all three? Wow. I'd be lucky if I could do one in twice that, I'd bet. This may be why my players tell me to worry about running the game and writing the plot, they'll stock the dungeons.
You certainly are blessed with some talented folks in your group. Between Zad's excellent story hour and Scorch's awesome models you definitely have the bases more than covered! Nevermind the fact your wife is a talented modeller when she decides to also - man the more I think about it, the more I realize how spoiled you truly are
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Did you do an ink wash on the mummies? I like how the swords appear rusted, as if they were stored in the sarcophagi with them.
Ink washes are your friend when you are speed painting. The swords really look rusted in real life - a dab of chestnut ink with a bit of brown and a tiny drop of elmers glue for the wash. I'm not sure I could achieve a better result with layering.
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Pogre,
I like the Paladin. He turned out well. The shield is pretty nice. Does the photo do it justice? I suspect it doesn't.

The mummies are good. I always enjoy the undead. I think the rust turned out fantastic.

Keep it up.
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One of these days you are going to catch me at a point that I can't return the TAG, but this week isn't it...

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Nice work, man, nice work.
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Fantastic stuff, pogre. I haven't checked out this thread in over 6 months and i'm glad i did! There were some great additions. And i agree with what you said early on about watching zilch TV. Cut that outta your life and all kinds of time is freed up! Say, what do you teach anyway, and do the kids know of your hobby? You could single-handedly wrangle a whole new generation of gamers if you just showed what you do at home!
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Fantastic stuff, pogre. I haven't checked out this thread in over 6 months and i'm glad i did!
Thanks much - I appreciate your stopping by!

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Say, what do you teach anyway, and do the kids know of your hobby? You could single-handedly wrangle a whole new generation of gamers if you just showed what you do at home!
I teach social studies. It's funny you would mention bringing kids into the hobby - I teach World History. We are transitioning from Imperialism of the 19th century to WWI and I use the classic game Diplomacy to illustrate the entangling alliances that helped lead to the war. It's a lot of fun and the kids learn something.

At lunch today a couple of our English teachers asked me 'when are you done with this Diplomacy game?' When I asked why, they said they were sick of hearing about alliances with Germany and Turkey and moving their navies into this sea or that. Let's just say the kids totally get into it!

My gaming habits became public knowledge for some of my students when one of them noticed there was a guy with the same name as mine on the BadAxe Games' website. I came clean at that point. Several of them begged me to run a campaign, but with three kids at home, coaching, and my Wednesday night D&D campaign I had to say no.

My five-year old son and three year-old daughter love to play though. Our game is about a step above the complexity of Rel's game with his daughter.

Thanks for the bump - I should have something worthy of checking out in the very near future!
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All pictures are thumbnail link to larger photos.

What follows is a step-by-step recounting of preparing, modifying, and painting the largest metal figure I have ever painted. I have included lots of pictures at every step and descriptions of what I did. This is the first figure that actually caused my wife to exclaim in profanity (a very rare thing).

Many of the pictures were taken at my workbench and so the quality suffers slightly. This thing is a behemoth and really challenged me to get it all in one picture!

The base miniature for this project is Gauth from Reaper Miniatures. I bought him for a commissioned project sometime ago, but my “client” backed out and told me to just keep the figure. He paid for him, I kept him – my kind of commission .

I unpacked the figure and began the process of preparing it for assembly.


A figure this heavy was going to require some extra work to assemble. I decided on a brass wire gauge to use as pins and began the tedious process of pinning the pieces. Pictures below are a tail pin and a pin on the foot.


I formerly employed a two-part epoxy glue to join large pieces like this together. It’s inexpensive and works very well. However, lately I have changed to a faster method that saves me a step. I put a nice layer of kneadatite in the joint and apply a dab of glue to the other section. I press the joint together and hold it for a couple of minutes. After a few minutes I sculpt the putty in the seam and let it sit overnight. This saves me an extra step of having to put green stuff in the joint later as I did with the two-part epoxy. Thus far, I have had no problems with the pieces with which I have used this method.

This is a picture of the tail joint where I have put some of the kneadatite on:


The picture below shows the results of a couple of these joints after I pressed them together – a wing and a tail joint:


A figure of this size was going to require a fair-sized base. This dragon was going to be an old devil, so in game terms it would probably occupy a 6” by 6” area. But that was more space than I was willing to give up in my miniatures cabinet. I decided on a 4” by 4” space and figured it could step in for a most of the adult red dragon categories.

My wife bought me a cheap wooden base at Michael’s for 49 cents. I placed the dragon on this and began covering it in wood putty.



Like most of you, I cannot just put a figure and paint it most of the time. I need to make some modifications, and hopefully add some things that will make the model truly stand out. I decided a red dragon must breath fire, and so I was going to add fire breath. The first step was to fix a piece of brass into the mouth to build the fire onto:



I started the fire sculpting by winding some kneadatite around the brass wire. This serves two purposes – 1st it is a nice base for the rest of the green stuff to adhere to, and 2nd it gives the fire a little bit of bulk.



While sections of the fire sculpt were drying I began fitting the torso together. Man alive! This is going to be one BIG figure:



There were a few things about this excellent model I did not like. I thought the teeth were a little too small. Some I did some quick dental work on the top incisors.



The dragon fire is completed. I made it with a series of spiraling tubes that ended at the tip at various angles. I fitted the head on and put it on the torso:



Finally, after a bit more sanding and sculpting the dragon is ready for priming:



I knew I wanted to prime the figure black and decided to experiment with a new product. Now I hear you saying, “Are you crazy pogre – after all that time preparing the dragon!?” Well, yes, but I hedged my bet. This product was endorsed by one of the finest figure painters I know of – Mike McVey. I ran down to the NAPA auto-parts store and bought a can of Dupli-Color black Sandable Primer. I was very satisfied with the results and recommend it highly.



Three weeks after I had started the dragon I was now ready to start painting!

I decided to try a technique multiple Golden Demon winner Joe Orteza espoused at a clinic and dry brushed the figure white a few times. This is similar to a technique JD Wiker apparently employs too.



Following the dry brush base came a dark ink wash and then the base color for the dragon scales.



I will not bore you with the painting details. I went for a classic red dragon look. If you have questions about painting let me know, but it was mostly rough layering. All I have left below is some highlighting.



This close up of the dragon’s head shows some of the dental work I performed to make those fangs a bit nastier!



Here are a couple of final shots. The thing is so big I could not really get a decent background behind it!





Hope you enjoy the dragon and my step-by-step descriptions. I have a really cool commission I am working on that will show up here in a couple of weeks and many other smaller projects. Special thanks to nyrf for inspiring me to do a little sculpting!
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Pogre,
Very impressive. That is one cool dragon.
The flame breath turned out very well.

I'll have to try your green stuff assembly method. That looks like it would work very well for several of my projects too.

I'm glad my sculpting was inspiring.
Keep up the great work.
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Old 26th March 2005, 11:49 AM   #232 (permalink)
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That dragon rules! More monsters!
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Old 27th March 2005, 09:57 AM   #233 (permalink)
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Absolutely awesome!
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Totally Fantastic. Very well done!!!
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Amazingly well done!

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Much thanks all!

I'm working on some cool projects, but like the last one they are a bit more involved. I may get some speed painting in this week and if I do - I'll post the results.

I really appreciate everyone's comments.
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Old 31st March 2005, 01:17 PM   #237 (permalink)
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Hi Pogre,

I found my way over here and this would have to be the coolest thread on En World!!!
That Dragon looks so effective by the way - awesome skill to accomplish that!
We use some neat figures in our game - I'm particularly pleased with my efforts for Lucifus Cray - but this is nothing compared to what you have done here. Keep up the good work.

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So NOW I know why Valanthe dragged me out to the auto parts store to buy some Duplicolor Black! I have YOU to blame. Again.

I love this stuff, by the way. Seeing the process you guys go through is both interesting and educational. Love it, LOVE IT.
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Frickin amazin. I don't see how you have time for anything OTHER than painting and sculpting! If you get a chance ever, can you post a pic with the Red Dragon next to a measly human, for scale?
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A shot from tonight’s game:

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