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Old 6th December 2004, 03:41 AM   #161 (permalink)
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Did you use some sort of visual aid, or did you just go by what you thought the areas should look like?
Thanks for the compliment Captain. I used a picture of a burning pinetree for reference.


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How does it look on the tabletop?
O.K. The blending could have been smoother, but I like the effect. I'll try it again soon.
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Old 7th December 2004, 04:51 AM   #162 (permalink)
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I'll tell you, it's a diabolical plot! No matter what I do my demons just do not turn out looking good. I am embarassed to tell you how much time I have in this Vrock, but blah. The pictures are not very good, but this fig does not deserve much more. A friend suggested posting it to show that I come up short sometimes. It's worthy of the gaming table and my players will be complimentary, but I won't be passing it around...

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Old 7th December 2004, 05:18 AM   #163 (permalink)
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Static Grass

Do you have an article explaining your technique on the lovely lush tufts of static grass I've seen on some of your minis? I have recenty begun using it since I've started expanding my base preparation, and I've only gotten anemic results with static grass. It looks better than fock, but it would never be mistaken for living grass. Thanks again for the cool pics!
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Old 7th December 2004, 08:13 PM   #164 (permalink)
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Do you have an article explaining your technique on the lovely lush tufts of static grass I've seen on some of your minis? I have recenty begun using it since I've started expanding my base preparation, and I've only gotten anemic results with static grass. It looks better than fock, but it would never be mistaken for living grass. Thanks again for the cool pics!
The key is not to press the grass down. Pile the grass up with twezzer onto the glue and then wait a second. Shake the loose stuff off and blow on the grass to make it stand up. I use a dry brush to stand it up a bit more and paint it a bit.

I explained my simple basing method in this article.

Thanks for stopping by and let me know how your bases turn out.
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Yes! Thank you! No more finely manicured lawns for my minis!
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Pogre,
You might want to get some good photos of bird wings. There is a surprising range of colors and feather detail that you can incorporate to add the zing you are looking for.
You would probably want to use different vulture wings as a reference for your Vrock.

I'm not at my main computer, so I can't send the link, but there is a great web page from the University of Puget Sound with top and bottom photos of bird wings.

Anyway... I think it looks pretty good, if even.
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Old 7th December 2004, 10:35 PM   #167 (permalink)
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I'll tell you, it's a diabolical plot! No matter what I do my demons just do not turn out looking good. I am embarassed to tell you how much time I have in this Vrock, but blah. The pictures are not very good, but this fig does not deserve much more. A friend suggested posting it to show that I come up short sometimes. It's worthy of the gaming table and my players will be complimentary, but I won't be passing it around...
Boy, I wish I could suck that good. I've painted a single mini in my life that I actually can look at it with anything resembling pride.

Keep posting 'em, man. We luv to see 'em.
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Here's the website with the bird wing photos:

http://www.ups.edu/biology/museum/wingphotos.html

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Old 8th December 2004, 06:30 AM   #169 (permalink)
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Wow nyrfherdr! That was practically a tagback

Thanks for the site reference - I spent about 45 minutes there tonight. I'm calling the Vrock done and I'm going to buy another to try again.

I did some speed painting tonight for fun. When I have a miniature turn out poorly a little speed painting makes a great change of pace. I'll post the results when its done.

Thanks for the compliment WizarDru! The great thing is you do not need to paint well - just leave it to Scorch et al. You just keep crankin' out that twisted campaign of yours!
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Pogre,
You're welcome. I'm always downloading photos of animals. My wife bought me a photo reference book for my birthday. I'll grab the title when I'm home. Tons of different, high quality shots of animals for fur, feather, scales, pattern references etc.

I do the speed painting thing too. Or I'll assemble and base up a bunch of models, or sculpt or something. Break things up.

I'll post another of my mini's today.

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Old 10th December 2004, 02:50 PM   #171 (permalink)
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I did some speed painting tonight for fun. When I have a miniature turn out poorly a little speed painting makes a great change of pace. I'll post the results when its done.
Pogre, I've got 2 questions for you about speed painting. In your article over at d20zines.com, you say to use a mix of "thinned Vallejo Smoke with at least 50% water/Future Floorwax Acrylic".

1. Which Vallejo Smoke paint are you talking about? Game Colors #68 Smokey Ink or Model Colors #181 Smoke? Are there any other brand and colors you can recommend in place of the smoke? I can't find Vallejo around here, and wanted to try some speed painting this weekend. All the stores around here carry either GW or Model Masters paints.

2. And are you thinning it with a mix of water and Future Floorwax, or either water or Future Floorwax? I've read about using Future to thin paints, but have never tried it.

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Pogre, I've got 2 questions for you about speed painting. In your article over at d20zines.com, you say to use a mix of "thinned Vallejo Smoke with at least 50% water/Future Floorwax Acrylic".

1. Which Vallejo Smoke paint are you talking about? Game Colors #68 Smokey Ink or Model Colors #181 Smoke? Are there any other brand and colors you can recommend in place of the smoke? I can't find Vallejo around here, and wanted to try some speed painting this weekend. All the stores around here carry either GW or Model Masters paints.

2. And are you thinning it with a mix of water and Future Floorwax, or either water or Future Floorwax? I've read about using Future to thin paints, but have never tried it.

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1. Model Colors #181 Smoke. I have also used Tamiya Color Smoke (X-19). One other alternative is to use some GW black ink suspended in the future floorwax mixture.

2. I thinned the model color with water and future floorwax.

Let me tell you about another great inking trick I learned since that article was published. I went to a seminar on painting by Joe Ortega. Joe is a multiple Golden Demon award winner and had a lot of cool ideas for fine tuning sculpting - but I digress. Take some Elmer's glue and add a small drop to your inks.

Now, I know it seems counter-intuitive, but it really works. What happens is the ink suspends in the crevices and recesses a little better, but still flows like a straight ink. It really looks fantastic when used in conjunction with armor washes. It seems to reduce bubbling that some inks do when used as washes. Try it and see what you think.

I also have adopted one of Joe's painting methods for achieving a highly layered look with less work. It takes a bit of explaining and so I'll try to whip up an article explaining the method. It is by no means a speed method, but gets pretty nice blended results with less effort.

Thanks for the questions Rich. Take care and enjoy the painting!
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I really like the Elmer's Glue Idea! I am definitely going to try that! I read somewhere about a drop of "washing up" liquid in your inks helps prevent pooling/splotching, but I haven't seen a lot of results. Maybe I put too little, but I was worried about foam when I shook the pot. I will study your articles intently Pogre.
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Hey Pogre. I am wondering about that vrock... Is that an out of the package miniature, or did you do that custom? If it is a kit, who makes it? I am just wondering because it is a really cool design. Or, if you really think that paint job sucks, you could always just give that one to me . Really though, I think it's a pretty decent job (although, I guess for you decent doesn't quite cut it...).
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Old 11th December 2004, 08:45 AM   #175 (permalink)
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Pogre, you just continually amaze me with your professional-level work.

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Hey Pogre. I am wondering about that vrock... Is that an out of the package miniature, or did you do that custom? If it is a kit, who makes it?
That's Reaper's Vulture Demon, stock #2532
http://www.reapermini.com/gallery/2500s/2532_G
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Now, some speed painting:
A bit of camp "furniture" for fun. Grendel Resin.

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A monster I did a while ago - not posted until my party confronted him


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Awesome! I love the detail on his ale gut!
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Thanks Tsunami! Hey, I just got done checking out Tsunami's Breakstone Clay - it totally kicks butt! Check it out
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