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Old 1st October 2009, 06:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Statistics of D&D [3.5]

I'm currently a MSc in Stats student at Colorado state. In my spare time, I like to analyze the statistics/mathematics of D&D 3.5.

I was curious about the data set you obtained for your Trail Blazer: New Horizons book, would I be able to get a copy of it? If so, do you have larger more detailed data set (i.e. with touch ACs, flatfood ACs, saves disagregated between will, reflex and fortitude etc etc) ?

Also, I'm not exactly looking for work, but if you would like to hire me for some statistical analysis of something that would be ok too.

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Old 1st October 2009, 04:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm currently a MSc in Stats student at Colorado state. In my spare time, I like to analyze the statistics/mathematics of D&D 3.5.

I was curious about the data set you [used], would I be able to get a copy of it?
My data set is simply compiled from an SRD database that I ported into Excel. You can find those files here, for example:

Andargor's Home

The data cells you'll get from this conversion are going to contain text data. For example, the AC column looks like this:

15 (+4 Dex, +1 natural), touch 14, flat-footed 11

Now you'll need to do as I did, and extract that text data into a new, number-sortable column.

Ditto for hit points/Hit Dice, Saving Throws, Ability Scores, etc.

Getting the data into a usable format represents a LOT of work. If you can work in other data formats (XML?), you might be able to create some scripts to automate the process of extracting the numerical data from text data.

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Also, I'm not exactly looking for work, but if you would like to hire me for some statistical analysis of something that would be ok too.
Well I'm certainly curious to see what might emerge from your analysis.
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  • I am profoundly impressed. The mathematical analyses were very enlightening, and the revisions based on those analyses were right on the money.
  • This is the best $4.95 I have ever spent on a gaming product.
  • This is exactly what a 3.75 ruleset should look like. If you really want to stick with a 3.5-based system, I think Trailblazer is the way to go.
  • Some of the changes are bold to say the least, and I don't agree with everything, but I really like the analytic approach.
  • The solution to multiclassed spellcasters is so elegant and effective that it should probably be adopted by all d20 games.
  • Really suffers in comparison to Pathfinder. Black and white with little to no art vs. full-color, loaded with art.
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Old 2nd October 2009, 06:30 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hey there,

Thanks for the reply!

Now, quick question for you, I'm guessing the SRD monster info only contains stuff from the MM1? Or does it contain more then that??

I'll probably have to see if I can write a SQL script to parse the info, that's the only data mining language I know. or R, but then I might kill myself trying to find the documentation for the stupid language.

edit: I guess I'm downloading one of the SQL/Access files that contains everything??

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I'm guessing the SRD monster info only contains stuff from the MM1? Or does it contain more than that??
I contains everything that was released as Open Content. (You need to know what that means.)

That would be most (but not all) of the monsters from MM1, Epic Level Handbook, and some Psionics stuff.

My own analysis does not include anything other than the MM1.

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edit: I guess I'm downloading one of the SQL/Access files that contains everything??
Yep. But IIRC, inside the zip file, the various "components" are split up into their own files-- monsters, spells, classes, etc. Poke around in there and see what it looks like.
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Trailblazer is now available. Questions? Try HERE. What folks are saying:
Spoiler:
  • I am profoundly impressed. The mathematical analyses were very enlightening, and the revisions based on those analyses were right on the money.
  • This is the best $4.95 I have ever spent on a gaming product.
  • This is exactly what a 3.75 ruleset should look like. If you really want to stick with a 3.5-based system, I think Trailblazer is the way to go.
  • Some of the changes are bold to say the least, and I don't agree with everything, but I really like the analytic approach.
  • The solution to multiclassed spellcasters is so elegant and effective that it should probably be adopted by all d20 games.
  • Really suffers in comparison to Pathfinder. Black and white with little to no art vs. full-color, loaded with art.
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