A few games I"d recommend that I haven't seen mentioned
1. Cutthroat CAvern- This is my favorite dungeon themed game in sometime. You and 3+ friends control heroes fighting monster or encounters. However, u don't trust each othe rtoo much and so the point of the game is to A. defeat the obstacle, B. backstab your friends but not soo much that you don't complete the obstacles. The mechanics are card driven not dice driven, which push a little more strategy in the game.
2. Under the Shadow of the dragon and Return of Heroes, both of these games use the same euro style mechanics as you move from area to area. However, again no dice and randomness is done with a grab bag and a little player choice.
3. Hunting Party - Another dungeon themed game where each player controls a party of adventures. As the game goes on, you recruit players, fight obstacles and try to solve the prophesy (process of elimination style).
4. Tomb - This game has been played a few times with my group. You start off by drafting your party in the inn and go into the randomly created dungeon. The creators put a lot o time into making the different NPCs very different. Its never the same game twice.
Also be on the lookout, Small Worlds is suppose to be good, its a fantasy war game. War o the Thrones, the exalted board game, is also pretty good.
Scifi wise, someone mentioned Twilight and said 3-4 hours... more like 6 to 8 hours with a full table. It's fun, but too often the winner can be seen an hour or so before it ends. Races of Galaxy was also mentioned as was its solitair problem. The best scifi themed game to come around in the last few years is Galaxy Trucker. You and your friends are space haulers working for a crappy company that refuses to provide ships. Instead the game starts off with a race to build the most complete, and durable space ship first. The players are given a single timer. After you race to builda ship that can withstand the upcoming obstacles (which are randomly drawn from the deck but available to look at when you're building your ship, of course because you're racing with others to get the right parts, it can be time consuming) , you send the ship into space, facing the obstacles. Very rarely does any ship get to its destination in tact, as you fight pirates, astroids, smugglers and other space hazzards. There's also an expansion that adds a 5th player and personal screw you decks for players.
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Can you tell me more about Arkham Horror? How does it play? Which set do you need to play? Is there a basic set and add-ons or can you play each one alone? Which are the best add-ons/sets?
the base set has more then enough to keep you busy.
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There are. Probably because Talisman is glorified snakes & ladders. Played it once. I'd eat my left arm to get that hour back and do something else with it.
Talisman is fun if you just want something to occupy your time while you sit around a table and kibbitz with the buddies, drink beers, and not use your brain.
If you want something with actual strategy and tactics....Talisman is not that game.
I think there is a place for both kinds of games, but it helps to know which kind of game is which.
That is why I don't care for the game Arkham Horror. Its very similar to Talisman in that you wander around a board and draw cards and fight monsters but very unsimilar in that you don't get to turn off your brain for the gameplay portion, which ruins the whole point of that style of game (for me anyway).
Fantasy: Wiz War, lots of multi-player treasure-stealing spell-slinging fun, although it is a knock-out game.
Sci-Fi (well historical/modern.. but with Sci-Fi elements): Nuclear War, also a knock out game.
I usually do like multi-player games that knock out players... but these games are so fun they transcend this game design disadvantage.
I like Space Crusade, the one made under Milton Bradley (not the GW version) as a SciFi battle game. Heroscape is a great (if not the ultimate) fantasy/sci-fi battle game.
Talisman is lots of good fun. I hate to say it, but the GW 3rd edition is probably the best version (though the art isn't the best). I want a computer version or better a console version.
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HeroQuest was good, lots of replay value, and easy to use, unfortunately it's been out of print for a very long time.
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London Underground (which I'm informed is very similar to Paris Metro). A fun (not as short as they say) game that one's brilliant geek friends can still manipulate to trap you many stations away from victory.
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There are. Probably because Talisman is glorified snakes & ladders. Played it once. I'd eat my left arm to get that hour back and do something else with it.
An hour?! What did you just play the first turn?
Seriously, my friends and I have recently been playing Descent: Journeys in the Dark with the Road to Legend expansion and have been enjoying it immensely. The RtL expansion basically turns it into a campaign-style RPG with a lot of replay value thanks to different BBEGs, Plot cards and dozens of items, skills and monsters.
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Possible. S'all blurry now... To be honest, it might have been an hour, or maybe three? Time seemed to have been frozen.
(Pardon the very late answer/thread resurrect, but e-mail notification never worked with my account.)
No problem. better than the reply I got a few months ago for a post I made over a year before :/ i seem to be the thread killer anyways - I post in a thread and it ends a few posts (at most) later.
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Just to chime in with a dissenting opinion, it's worth mentioning that some folks find ARKHAM HORROR to be very, very cumbersome. It falls into that category for me of "Games I really wanted to like but just couldn't." There are tons of decks of different cards, tons of rules, and tons of maintenance and upkeep throughout the game. It's an amazing game, don't get me wrong. But playing it is more like work than fun. I say this as a Cthulhu/Lovecraft fan, a board game fan, and a die-hard horror fan.
I can see how one could view the game as such if not taught by an experienced player. I do think you are laying it on a bit thick as it sounds like complex boardgames are simply not your thing, which is fine. With a game of this size and scope of course the first bunch of playthroughs are going to be choppy when walking through the rules. There will be a learning curve. But that shouldn't stop the fun from happening unless the players do that themselves. At its core, the game is actually pretty simple but due to some poor wording in the instructions and on some of the cards a few complexities are present. Luckily there are tons of resources (many already linked in this thread) that clear up these rules gaffs and even more fan-made documents to speed up play and answer FAQ-type disputes.
As for the upkeep and maintenance, it is a step below Magic: The Gathering and D&D 3e/4e. Those phases are present but usually you are just flipping over cards and keeping track of modifiers that are in one of two places (the environment cards and the Ancient One's card). So if those two games are not up your alley as far as complexity goes, Arkham Horror probably won't be either.
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Oh, and BTW, for what it's worth, ARKHAM HORROR has little in common with Lovecraft's Cthulhu Mythos in terms of theme. Lovecraft's stories are about ordinary fools who go insane because of the evil they glimpse; ARKHAM HORROR is about a group of investigators who go out killing monsters and taking monster trophies.
One can look at it that way or they can view it like the Call of Cthulhu RPG where your investigator is there to prevent horrible things from happening but has an equal chance of being devoured or going insane or surviving to see another adventure. Whatever works for each group or individual is the way to go. One could play the game more an RPG with characters playing more to their own goals and motivations and the game (especially with the expansions) lets that happen with ease.
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Oh, and all that is without expansions. Once you start adding expansions, ye gods, it's like playing GURPS with all the Advanced combat rules and detailed terrain miniatures to go with it.
This statement is blowing the additional (and purely optional) rules modifications and game element additions way out of proportion. The expansions add more options typically in the form of cards, making decks bigger and adding to the pool of Ancient Ones/Investigators. They also offer more options in the ways of board spaces (new towns to explore based on the Mythos!) and upping the difficulty level for more experienced players. The core game is MORE than enough to keep players going for dozens of sessions. I probably played about 30+ games before even cracking open the expansion because we kept getting our butts kicked and didn't want to add more fuel to the fire.
So, er, yeah ... I wouldn't even glance at the expansions until one was very well acquainted with the regular game. It is also worth mentioning that many of the cards (and there are many of them) don't come into play every game session.
Not a bad intro to the basics! What no video can capture is the feel of the game as you progress through it. The dread around every corner and the elation of making a critical skill check at just the right moment. Or the crushing feeling of failure as the Ancient One awakens and you haven't the right resources to drive it away...
To finish up my post I'll just say that Arkham Horror offers the most replayability of any game boardgame I've ever encountered and answers well the first poster's question about these kinds of games. It falls under fantasy, sub-genre: horror. And it can be played solo, which is also a huge bonus in my book as that is a great way to learn the rules.
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To be honest, it might have been an hour, or maybe three? Time seemed to have been frozen.
No problem. better than the reply I got a few months ago for a post I made over a year before :/ i seem to be the thread killer anyways - I post in a thread and it ends a few posts (at most) later.
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