FANTASY GROUNDS Usage Reports: D&D, Pathfinder, & SAVAGE WORLDS
  • FANTASY GROUNDS Usage Reports: D&D, Pathfinder, & SAVAGE WORLDS


    Following up on The Orr Group's Roll20 recent usage statistics, I've just gotten some figures in from Smiteworks, who make Fantasy Grounds. Fantasy Grounds is, of course, the officially licensed Dungeons & Dragon virtual tabletop, and so its usage figures reflect that, with a very dramatic lead for D&D - the most popular systems, in order, are D&D 5E, Pathfinder, D&D 3.5, D&D 4E, and Savage Worlds.

    Taking 5E out of the equation, the other games make for an interesting list.



    Comments 18 Comments
    1. Grimstaff -
      I wonder what happened in April to make 3.5 games nearly double?

      Also, it's kind of cool to see Savage Worlds slow but steady gain in popularity. This is a game that has been around a while, but I never really took a good look at until recently, and I liked what I saw.
    1. Michael Long -
      Quote Originally Posted by Grimstaff View Post
      I wonder what happened in April to make 3.5 games nearly double?

      Also, it's kind of cool to see Savage Worlds slow but steady gain in popularity. This is a game that has been around a while, but I never really took a good look at until recently, and I liked what I saw.
      Looks sort of strange with 4E and Savage World also jumping up that same time period. Except Pathfinder staying steady and dipping in September. Would give a sense of those other games performance if 5e were removed.

      Sort of sad for Pathfinder though.
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      MerricB -
      I expect you have the effect of people trying the program for D&D 5E, then using it with other versions of D&D. But most of the potential PF players have already tried it or have their own favourite program already.

      Cheers!
    1. chibi graz'zt's Avatar
      chibi graz'zt -
      Congrats! 5e leading the pack again :-)
    1. Bera's Avatar
      Bera -
      Quote Originally Posted by Grimstaff View Post
      I wonder what happened in April to make 3.5 games nearly double?
      Princes of the Apocalypse was released. It looks like they had a general spike then (particularly 5e), so maybe a rising tide lifts all boats? Or at least it was good advertising in general, not just for 5e. Pathfinder sees a slight decrease, but they could probably run the stats to see if many of their 5e players were playing Pathfinder in the previous month(s).
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      Chimpy -
      Does Fantasy Grounds support the Edge of the Empire dice?
    1. Xavian Starsider's Avatar
      Xavian Starsider -
      yeah I'm thinking the fact that it was now the official place for D&D online made it a more interesting destination for all D&D. 4E also doubled that month.

      The information that I'm more interested in is june where the number of overall games seems to go down slightly (though this doesn't account for games after the top 5, but there's a definite downward in games played for the top 5 other than 5E) despite June being when FG had their 33% off sale
    1. Xavian Starsider's Avatar
      Xavian Starsider -
      Quote Originally Posted by Chimpy View Post
      Does Fantasy Grounds support the Edge of the Empire dice?
      Yes, via a community-created free toolset. You can find discussion of it here: http://steamcommunity.com/app/252690...5530302049288/
    1. Nylanfs's Avatar
      Nylanfs -
      Lurv me some crunchy stats.
    1. innerdude's Avatar
      innerdude -
      Love, love LOOOOVERLY LOVE LURV that Savage Worlds has 6% of the total game count, and has seen a small but steady increase over time. By itself Savage Worlds percentage is equal to half of the total remaining percentage of "other" games.
    1. Gundark's Avatar
      Gundark -
      Quote Originally Posted by Bera View Post
      Princes of the Apocalypse was released. It looks like they had a general spike then (particularly 5e), so maybe a rising tide lifts all boats? Or at least it was good advertising in general, not just for 5e. Pathfinder sees a slight decrease, but they could probably run the stats to see if many of their 5e players were playing Pathfinder in the previous month(s).
      Pathfinder has only seen a slight decline compared to the massive jump in 5e. I'm guessing that because the other games are remaining stable-ish means that people playing 5e AND other games (PF, SW, etc). I'm thinking that people are a lot less "dogmatic" about their games than we think they are.
    1. Morrus's Avatar
      Morrus -
      Quote Originally Posted by Gundark View Post
      Pathfinder has only seen a slight decline compared to the massive jump in 5e. I'm guessing that because the other games are remaining stable-ish means that people playing 5e AND other games (PF, SW, etc). I'm thinking that people are a lot less "dogmatic" about their games than we think they are.
      It more likely says something about the platform than the games.
    1. Wrathamon -
      They are neck and neck with SW? interesting. I didnt know SW game was that popular.
    1. smiteworks's Avatar
      smiteworks -
      Savage Worlds is a great system with a small, but loyal following. Fantasy Grounds has very strong Savage Worlds support available for it and our numbers probably skew a bit as a result.

      The ruleset is only $10 for Fantasy Grounds and it includes the rulebook. In addition, it's a flexible system with support for nearly every genre out there and a large number of smaller, Indie publishers that produce content for it. There are somewhere around 70 different add-ons available for it on Fantasy Grounds. There are over 2 dozen different settings available alone, with my two favorite being Sundered Skies, by Triple Ace Games, and Deadlands Reloaded by Pinnacle Entertainment Games. While I enjoy the crunch found in the rules for games like D&D and Pathfinder, Savage Worlds is a game system that I find myself routinely returning to.

      I know that sounded like a sales pitch, and it kind of is. Regardless of whether or not you ever play it on Fantasy Grounds, you should definitely check it out.
    1. discosoc's Avatar
      discosoc -
      Quote Originally Posted by Grimstaff View Post
      I wonder what happened in April to make 3.5 games nearly double?
      My guess is 5e created some nostalgia for people, even if they didn't like the rules-light focus of it. Let's face it, Pathfinder can be a real pain to run, and it only gets worse as they add more books and rules, so I think there's a healthy number of people looking to "get back to the basics" with it, which is basically 3.5.

      That's a total guess on my part, though, and just reflects the people I talk to. Could be regional.
    1. Doctor Futurity -
      Cool. But I am perplexed at what game has the initials DSA. It's 2% of the 15% and is singled out on the mini pie chart....and I have no idea what DSA is, which is weirding me out. (and Google aint' helping)
    1. smiteworks's Avatar
      smiteworks -
      Quote Originally Posted by camazotz View Post
      Cool. But I am perplexed at what game has the initials DSA. It's 2% of the 15% and is singled out on the mini pie chart....and I have no idea what DSA is, which is weirding me out. (and Google aint' helping)
      It's a popular German game, Das Schwarze Auge (translated: The Dark Eye)
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Eye
      https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Das_Schwarze_Auge
    1. Nylanfs's Avatar
      Nylanfs -
      Which also has an English translation now. Maybe smite works should see about getting an official ruleset and modules?
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