The Noble is 5E's Warlord - A Preview Of A TOUCH OF CLASS
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  • The Noble is 5E's Warlord - A Preview Of A TOUCH OF CLASS


    A Touch Of Class launches on Kickstarter in a couple of days, on Monday, April 3rd. Keep an eye out, because there will be early bird rewards for those who get in quickly. It features 7 new classes for 5th Edition, along with associated subclasses, feats, spells, and more. These classes all originally appeared in EN5ider, the 5E Patreon, and have been revised and updated based on your feedback. You can see a preview here, and a preview of the Alchemist class here. But this post is about the Noble - the 5E version of the Warlord - which was originally published in EN5ider nearly two years ago, and which has been revised and updated for this 70-page full colour softcover book.

    UPDATE: THIS KICKSTARTER HAS NOW LAUNCHED!




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    Comments 18 Comments
    1. Herobizkit's Avatar
      Herobizkit -
      This has to be an April Fool's joke, right?

      Starting with a martial weapon and scale armor but having proficiency in neither?
      A once-per-long-rest Cure Light Wounds?

      Is this intended to be a "Prestige Class"?

      I'm so confused.
    1. Xeviat's Avatar
      Xeviat -
      Quote Originally Posted by Herobizkit View Post
      This has to be an April Fool's joke, right?

      Starting with a martial weapon and scale armor but having proficiency in neither?
      A once-per-long-rest Cure Light Wounds?

      Is this intended to be a "Prestige Class"?

      I'm so confused.
      That's three options for starting equipment. One of the paths likely gives armor and weapon profs.


    1. ddaley's Avatar
      ddaley -
      This class seems very much to be a supporting class. I could see this being a person's second character or an NPC working with the party. Beyond the starting equipment vs proficiencies issues, it looks ok. Not sure how much fun it would be to play as a primary character, but I see it playing a valuable role to the party.

      Quote Originally Posted by Herobizkit View Post
      This has to be an April Fool's joke, right?

      Starting with a martial weapon and scale armor but having proficiency in neither?
      A once-per-long-rest Cure Light Wounds?

      Is this intended to be a "Prestige Class"?

      I'm so confused.
    1. Zardnaar's Avatar
      Zardnaar -
      Quote Originally Posted by Xeviat View Post
      That's three options for starting equipment. One of the paths likely gives armor and weapon profs.


      It does. The original noble had some issues though so depending on how much revision has been done 2 of the 3 sub classes were eh and the 3rd was out right broken in the right party useless in others.
    1. TwoSix -
      There's more features baked into the subclasses (like proficiency and extra hit points) than in most other classes. The relative fragility of the base is to support the heart noble concept, which is the subclass that allows action granting to other characters at the cost of any personal offensive capability. I'm of the opinion that being able to optimize at-will damage isn't broken, merely strong, particularly on a chassis that only provides minor healing and utility function otherwise, but I know others disagree.
    1. Tony Vargas -
      Quote Originally Posted by Herobizkit View Post
      This has to be an April Fool's joke, right?
      Nope, this is the third time, at least, Morrus has posted about this forthcoming kickstarter. Sadly, if I understood him correctly, it's just a pre-order kinda thing, we'll never see it on a store shelf. It is funny timing, though, and I question the choice of article (in both senses - why this preview on 4/1 and why the particular marketing hype of the rather than 'a' '5e Warlord?) There's half a dozen 5e Warlords on DMsG, most actually called that. The Noble, OTOH, was not dissimilar in concept the Noble class in SWSE. I guess there are still a few Warlord threads on the front page, and any sort of publicity is good publicity.

      Quote Originally Posted by Zardnaar View Post
      It does. The original noble had some issues though so depending on how much revision has been done 2 of the 3 sub classes were eh and the 3rd was out right broken in the right party useless in others.
      Meh, the same can be said of Bless, among many things, in 5e. Encounter balance just isn't the biggest deal this ed. Whatever the players come up with, the DM's Empowered to handle it if he's up to the challenge, an encounter can swing much easier with party composition synergies, the DM can also swing it the other way.

      Quote Originally Posted by Morrus View Post
      The Noble is 5E's Warlord - A Preview Of A TOUCH OF CLASS
      A Touch Of Class launches on Kickstarter in a couple of days, But this post is about the Noble - the 5E version of the Warlord - which was originally published in EN5ider nearly two years ago, and which has been revised and updated for this 70-page full colour softcover book.
      I'm delighted for Moonsong, and hope your project does very well, Morrus.
    1. Hurin88's Avatar
      Hurin88 -
      Doesn't seem much like a Warlord to me it if has no martial weapons and no armor. In fact, that doesn't really even seem to fit the word 'noble' in a medieval context, since nobles were defined as 'those who fight' (bellatores), meaning those trained to fight on horseback with heavy weapons and armor.
    1. Morrus's Avatar
      Morrus -
      Quote Originally Posted by Hurin88 View Post
      Doesn't seem much like a Warlord to me it if has no martial weapons and no armor.
      It does. Just not on that page.
    1. Zardnaar's Avatar
      Zardnaar -
      Quote Originally Posted by Morrus View Post
      It does. Just not on that page.

      The subclasses do and it has a d6 hit dice. A d6 hit dice kind of implies its features should be as good as level 9 spells later in its career.

      The name doesn't really suit the class either. The Noble in star wars actually does have some social type mechanics, this Noble is kind of a wannabe warlord that kind of fails at being a noble and a warlord.

      It actually looks unchanged from the one I already have so maybe the subclasses have been changed IDK.
    1. Tormyr's Avatar
      Tormyr -
      Have the versions on Patreon been updated as well, or is the Kickstarter the only place to get the updated versions?
    1. Morrus's Avatar
      Morrus -
      Quote Originally Posted by Tormyr View Post
      Have the versions on Patreon been updated as well, or is the Kickstarter the only place to get the updated versions?
      See the Patreon for information about that.
    1. Morrus's Avatar
      Morrus -
      Quote Originally Posted by Zardnaar View Post
      The subclasses do and it has a d6 hit dice. A d6 hit dice kind of implies its features should be as good as level 9 spells later in its career.

      The name doesn't really suit the class either. The Noble in star wars actually does have some social type mechanics, this Noble is kind of a wannabe warlord that kind of fails at being a noble and a warlord.

      It actually looks unchanged from the one I already have so maybe the subclasses have been changed IDK.
      These have been revised based on feedback from several people, including you. You are credited in the book, in fact.
    1. Tormyr's Avatar
      Tormyr -
      Quote Originally Posted by Morrus View Post
      See the Patreon for information about that.
      Cheers!
    1. Zardnaar's Avatar
      Zardnaar -
      Quote Originally Posted by Morrus View Post
      These have been revised based on feedback from several people, including you. You are credited in the book, in fact.
      Thats why I am not to worried its to early to call it yet. The alchemist for example looks a bit better over the old one.

      Looking at playing a morph soon. Maybe a feywalker.
    1. TwoSix -
      Quote Originally Posted by Zardnaar View Post
      Thats why I am not to worried its to early to call it yet. The alchemist for example looks a bit better over the old one.

      Looking at playing a morph soon. Maybe a feywalker.
      Morph is my go-to option next time I roll low stats.
    1. ad_hoc's Avatar
      ad_hoc -
      "A Tough of Glass"
    1. Zardnaar's Avatar
      Zardnaar -
      Quote Originally Posted by TwoSix View Post
      Morph is my go-to option next time I roll low stats.
      Yeah I had that thought as well.
    1. Morrus's Avatar
      Morrus -
      This Kickstarter is now live!
      https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...or-5th-edition
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