What's Next For D&D? Live From Origins - D&D Beyond
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  • What's Next For D&D? Live From Origins - D&D Beyond


    D&D Beyond was covered at the What's Next For D&D? panel at Origins Game Fair. In a previous article, I covered Tomb of Annihilation, courtesy of Twitter user Kato Katonian who live-tweeted the panel. This article covers D&D Beyond, the upcoming digital tools suite for Dungeons & Dragons. Curse's Adam Bradford was on the panel to represent D&D Beyond.




    • Simply provide tools for managing game easier. Not making [D&D] into a video game.
    • Beta phase 2 of D&D Beyond is digital character builder. This month.
    • Create characters in minutes instead of hours, is the promise. Quick build, randomized generator, or straight up full creation.
    • Digital character sheet. Aiming to be useful on smartphone (as well as full PC) to use at table.
    • Beta Phase 3 of D&D Beyond: Homebrew & Campaign management. E.g. DM can make custom magic item and PC can have it on their sheet.
    • Home brew stuff can be made public for other users. Campaign mgmt will allow DM to see and edit player character sheets.
    • Two tiers of subscriptions: Hero Tier for players (unlimited character slots)...
    • Master Subscription: DMs can share any content they've bought through Beyond with their players. No price points yet.
    • Future Beyond features: stream integration, pronunciation guide, native mobile app, monster progression, encounter builder, init trackr.
    • Pronunciation guide done by Matt Mercer and Marisha Ray. Coming in next few months, possibly sooner.
    • Native mobile app a priority.
    • D&D Beyond is planning on having all 13 print products integrated at launch (no pricing yet).
    • After release, content will be available in D&D Beyond same day as hobby store release.

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    1. CapnZapp -
      Thanks!

      Sent from my C6603 using EN World mobile app
    1. CNYGamer99 -
      All I can see is a link to the D&D Beyond logo.
    1. SerHogan's Avatar
      SerHogan -
      As a kid I used to just roll up characters when I was bored and build them out. Why, in 2017, you can't go to D&D's website and generate characters for fun, I have no idea. If you want to draw in a kid let him go and make a character! For free. This thing is going to be a pay site? This approach should be PART of the gaming experience now. You should get an account when you buy the handbook.
    1. fantasmamore's Avatar
      fantasmamore -
      Quote Originally Posted by SerHogan View Post
      Why, in 2017, you can't go to D&D's website and generate characters for fun, I have no idea.
      We don't know yet. Maybe the "open" options (OGL) of the Character Builder will be publicly available to anyone as their Compendium is right now.
    1. Sands999's Avatar
      Sands999 -
      Quote Originally Posted by SerHogan View Post
      As a kid I used to just roll up characters when I was bored and build them out. Why, in 2017, you can't go to D&D's website and generate characters for fun, I have no idea. If you want to draw in a kid let him go and make a character! For free. This thing is going to be a pay site? This approach should be PART of the gaming experience now. You should get an account when you buy the handbook.
      You can still roll up characters for free like you used to. You can actually download the basic rules and play for free, unlike past editions. The devs at DnDBeyond have also stated that all of the elements being released in the beta version will remain free. So that means you will be able to create a limited amount of chatarcers on their site for free. For further conveniences, yes you're going to have to pay. But it doesn't detract from the fact that you can use enough of what's available to play for free. People have to make a living though. I don't expect people to spend months designing something that the public will just get handed for free.

      Furthermore there are other sites that you can use to create free characters for D&D like, http://www.orcpub.com/

      WotCs plans and releases have all been centered on making sure the hobby lives on and draws in a new generation, and if you look at the media it's generating, the livestream games, live shows, the shedding of its previous stigma alongside all of the Hollywood people who are jumping in to the D&D lime light and the fact that Warner Brothers is creating a new BIG SCREEN D&D movie.... personally, I'd say WotC is doing a damn good job.
    1. LapBandit's Avatar
      LapBandit -
      The technology underpinning D&D Beyond is old and it shows in interactions with the website. Obviously whoever at WotC agreed either did it for cost or some other unknown reason, because no modern shop would build it so old, slow, and with that user experience.
    1. iwarrior-poet -
      It is flat out ridiculous that WoTC hasn't integrated digital tools with new rule sets from the ground up. There are too many historical failures in this area to even begin to address. I won't buy into DnD Beyond until is six months old and well reviewed.
    1. Morrus's Avatar
      Morrus -
      Quote Originally Posted by Sands999 View Post
      People have to make a living though. I don't expect people to spend months designing something that the public will just get handed for free.
      I think you might be confused. When companies create free content, they still pay their employees. Loss-leaders are a fairly common practice in not only tabletop gaming but pretty much every industry. The free D&D Starter Kit is an excellent example of one.
    1. Mistwell's Avatar
      Mistwell -
      Hard to believe the whining and complaining about news of progress on a digitial product.
    1. Erdric Dragin's Avatar
      Erdric Dragin -
      Quote Originally Posted by Mistwell View Post
      Hard to believe the whining and complaining about news of progress on a digitial product.
      Because every single one of their past attempts/progress on digital products were met with failure.
    1. Patrick McGill's Avatar
      Patrick McGill -
      Quote Originally Posted by Erdric Dragin View Post
      Because every single one of their past attempts/progress on digital products were met with failure.
      I'm not sure what that has to do with this product, which is a third party development, and hasn't gotten the chance to prove itself.

      I enjoyed the first phase, even if it is the least needed part of it for me.
    1. fjw70's Avatar
      fjw70 -
      I really like phase one as well. It's very useful for me to be able to look monster up quickly. Once all the material is in then even phase one will be great. Not as excited about phase two but still looking forward to it. I am very much looking forward you phase three.
    1. SigmaOne's Avatar
      SigmaOne -
      Quote Originally Posted by Mistwell View Post
      Hard to believe the whining and complaining about news of progress on a digitial product.
      Sadly, it's not at all hard to believe. In fact, this being an RPG web forum, it is completely expected.

      (No offense intended here to the administrators and moderators here; you all do a great job keeping this place civil. RPG players, and people in general, just love nothing more than complaining about things.)

      Edit: I realize after the fact that might have been sarcasm on Mistwell's part.
    1. Shasarak's Avatar
      Shasarak -
      Quote Originally Posted by Erdric Dragin View Post
      Because every single one of their past attempts/progress on digital products were met with failure.
      The 4th edition character builder was pretty good.
    1. Sands999's Avatar
      Sands999 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Morrus View Post
      I think you might be confused. When companies create free content, they still pay their employees. Loss-leaders are a fairly common practice in not only tabletop gaming but pretty much every industry. The free D&D Starter Kit is an excellent example of one.
      What I mean is that I do not expect a company to solely produce free content without something they can profit off of to keep their business alive. I.e. The free d&d rules. The limited rules are free and this helps draw interest. Employees are paid to create something that has a free component to it, but still allows the company to profit when interested people playing the free stuff want more and purchase the books. I think is a great business model.

      This all to say that you can still play d&d and make characters for free, which has not ever been an option prior to 5th edition.
    1. Mephista's Avatar
      Mephista -
      Meh. I'll worry about digital products when there's enough mechanics I need to reference on a digital device. I don't really need it to reference player material when we only have core+1 generally.
    1. Rellott's Avatar
      Rellott -
      Quote Originally Posted by Shasarak View Post
      The 4th edition character builder was pretty good.
      Are you talking about the offline one, or the online one? The online one had all the same stuff but was a major pain to load and navigate through. I was sorely disappointed when they discontinued official support for the offline character builder. Both were tough to implement homebrew into (which might be a small part of the reason I didn't notice as much 4e 3rd party material... or maybe I just failed my perception check), but it was possible. A good official character builder was practically necessary in a game with so many customization options spread out over so many splat books.
    1. Jester David's Avatar
      Jester David -
      WotC hasn't has a lot of success with past efforts.
      But they haven't worked with an established company that has a history of producing software. They have a better chance than ever of producing something that works.
      And they last couple editions have had a hell of a lot of moving parts to manage and build around.

      An advantage of working on things when you have an established and well selling product (that also isn't in flux) rather than between editions when you're not attracting any attention.
    1. Mistwell's Avatar
      Mistwell -
      Quote Originally Posted by Erdric Dragin View Post
      Because every single one of their past attempts/progress on digital products were met with failure.
      That's false (4e's did quite well) but even if true this is from a third party company with a proven track record, and it's not cause for whining and complaining concerning news about their latest attempt.
    1. DnDBeyond's Avatar
      DnDBeyond -
      Quote Originally Posted by SerHogan View Post
      As a kid I used to just roll up characters when I was bored and build them out. Why, in 2017, you can't go to D&D's website and generate characters for fun, I have no idea. If you want to draw in a kid let him go and make a character! For free. This thing is going to be a pay site? This approach should be PART of the gaming experience now. You should get an account when you buy the handbook.
      Hey, it's Adam here.

      It actually will be free to create up to six characters with SRD/ Basic Rules/ EEPC content. And you can create six, delete them all, and start again if you want to do it over and over.

      No need for a subscription or to buy additional content to use the builder and digital sheet for that.

      There's no need to subscribe if six characters are enough for you. There's no need to buy additional official content if the SRD/ Basic Rules are enough for you.

      We're just giving everyone all the options for them to make their choice.

      We'll be launching fairly soon, and I still believe people will see the pricing we've pushed so hard to get and be pleasantly surprised. (Or maybe not. It is, after all, the internet.)

      I would love to meet every single person that is skeptical about what we're doing and have a conversation about this game that we all love. I feel like if I could have just ten minutes, it could go a long way toward convincing everyone that we're really trying to do something good for players and the game, something that I myself have wanted to use for years.

      * steps down from the table, rolls Persuasion...we'll see what I got on the check.

      Thanks!
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