Tomb of Annihilation Is Here - What Do You Think?
  • Tomb of Annihilation Is Here - What Do You Think?


    Today's the day - WotC's latest Dungeons & Dragons adventure, Tomb of Annihilation, is out! Head on down to your friendly (or unfriendly) local (or not so local) gaming (or comic) store and pick up your copy. Alternatively, if you use a virtual table top, it's available for Fantasy Grounds and Roll20.


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    1. nicolas.carrillos's Avatar
      nicolas.carrillos -
      Could someone who already has the book please say what the suggested conversion to Eberron say? Thanks a lot!
    1. Osgood's Avatar
      Osgood -
      I second the Eberron request... the main reason I'm picking this one up is that it seems perfect for Eberron.
    1. Mr. Wilson -
      There was a poster over on reddit who accessed the book early and was doing an AMA about it.

      Basically, he said Stormreach was substituted as the main hub and that the adventure took place in Xen'drik.

      I don't have it yet to confirm, but that makes a ton of sense on the face of it.
    1. NotRussellCrowe's Avatar
      NotRussellCrowe -
      Loving the new prices on Fantasy Grounds; only $28 in Canada on Steam, how can I not pick this one up?
    1. Sqn Cdr Flashheart's Avatar
      Sqn Cdr Flashheart -
      Also available on D&D Beyond, nice
    1. Raunalyn's Avatar
      Raunalyn -
      I'm curious what the disclaimer says; that's always entertaining.
    1. NotRussellCrowe's Avatar
      NotRussellCrowe -
      Quote Originally Posted by Raunalyn View Post
      I'm curious what the disclaimer says; that's always entertaining.
      Good point, I usually see that leaked ahead of time from someone who got their copy early, but not yet. Likely over the next few days I suspect.
    1. uriel222's Avatar
      uriel222 -
      Quote Originally Posted by NotRussellCrowe View Post
      Loving the new prices on Fantasy Grounds; only $28 in Canada on Steam, how can I not pick this one up?
      How well does Fantasy Grounds work? I've seen it, but they do a really poor job on their website of selling it, and the demo is clunky as hell. How detailed can the characters be (i.e. does their character builder cover everything DNDBeyond does)? Do the published adventures use Fog of War, or is it just the whole map plunked down in front of the players?
    1. NotRussellCrowe's Avatar
      NotRussellCrowe -
      Quote Originally Posted by uriel222 View Post
      How well does Fantasy Grounds work? I've seen it, but they do a really poor job on their website of selling it, and the demo is clunky as hell. How detailed can the characters be (i.e. does their character builder cover everything DNDBeyond does)? Do the published adventures use Fog of War, or is it just the whole map plunked down in front of the players?
      Personally I think it works well. I didn't find it overly difficult to learn as a player, while it was a bit more work to learn as a DM I don't feel it was more than any other tool.

      There are lots of tutorial videos on YouTube you can check out. There are official ones by Smite Works that work well and Dulux Oz has a series of videos that cover lots of the basics. But the best way to learn I think is to play a few games, and FG Con is coming up next month which will see lots of games to join over a weekend, keep an eye on that site and when player registration opens sign up for a game or two. All DMs run with the expectation that players are new to FG and some are even new to role playing games.
    1. Jester David's Avatar
      Jester David -
      My wife is snagging a copy for me tonight as a lat birthday present. So I won't get my hands on it for another 11 hours... But then I have an entire weekened to devour it.
      Hopefully I can get a review on my site (5mwd.com) by Monday or Tuesday.
    1. ddaley's Avatar
      ddaley -
      Fantasy Grounds works ok. I don't find it to be the most intuitive program and don't always find it easy to find the content that I need. It does work well for displaying maps to users. You can easily reveal only select parts of the map. I use it (at the table) for displaying images and maps to the user. I also use the combat tracker... though we roll dice manually and enter the results into the tracker.

      I am hoping that the long talked about Unity release will bring about usability improvements.

      The character builder I am sure supports everything that D&D Beyond supports. D&D Beyond is more of a reference site while FG is a virtual table top. So, their intent is different... but there is a lot of overlap.

      Quote Originally Posted by uriel222 View Post
      How well does Fantasy Grounds work? I've seen it, but they do a really poor job on their website of selling it, and the demo is clunky as hell. How detailed can the characters be (i.e. does their character builder cover everything DNDBeyond does)? Do the published adventures use Fog of War, or is it just the whole map plunked down in front of the players?
    1. Robert Dean McAnulty's Avatar
      Robert Dean McAnulty -
      Quote Originally Posted by uriel222 View Post
      How well does Fantasy Grounds work? I've seen it, but they do a really poor job on their website of selling it, and the demo is clunky as hell. How detailed can the characters be (i.e. does their character builder cover everything DNDBeyond does)? Do the published adventures use Fog of War, or is it just the whole map plunked down in front of the players?
      I looked into it, but I do not have a lot of friends who are not local, so I have not gotten a chance to try it... Fog is an option in most systems... I really want to try it and wish they could import the Reflex system so I could do Twilight:2013 on it... I have a few friends far reaching that might play that...
    1. Raunalyn's Avatar
      Raunalyn -
      Quote Originally Posted by uriel222 View Post
      How well does Fantasy Grounds work? I've seen it, but they do a really poor job on their website of selling it, and the demo is clunky as hell. How detailed can the characters be (i.e. does their character builder cover everything DNDBeyond does)? Do the published adventures use Fog of War, or is it just the whole map plunked down in front of the players?
      I personally really like it. Sure, it has some shortcomings (no map maker, occasional client crashes, etc), but character making is really well done, and there is a large community of people who create modules and stuff for the UA articles and homebrews, so it's well supported. The combat tracker is also really well done; as a DM, it does a great job of helping me keep track of effects and durations.

      edit: Yes, it does have a Fog of War for published adventures. You can also import your own maps and such.
    1. GameOgre -
      I played both Fantasy Grounds and Roll20 and both were fine to play on and both had a large learning curve for DM's but I went with Roll20 because it was cheaper. Now it's turning out that at least so far Fantasy Grounds is the cheaper one. At least to by WOTC stuff on.
    1. HawaiiSteveO's Avatar
      HawaiiSteveO -
      Still trying to decide if I want to wait for Amazon to deliver on 19th or buy now . . . pretty much double $ if I'm impatient.

      Dragon + had good sneak peak, although revealed a little too much for my taste.

      I recall reading somewhere PC's could start at 1,3,5 level or something like that? Any details? I recall CoS really kicked off at 3rd, and STK had 'filler' material for early levels before it really got rolling.
    1. ddaley's Avatar
      ddaley -
      I am in the same boat. I pre-ordered from Amazon, but am tempted to pick it up today from a local store. I'll probably just wait, since my group is in the middle of an adventure already (Legacy of the Crystal Shard... great little adventure).

      BTW: CoS also included a mini-adventure to raise characters a few levels.

      Quote Originally Posted by HawaiiSteveO View Post
      Still trying to decide if I want to wait for Amazon to deliver on 19th or buy now . . . pretty much double $ if I'm impatient.

      Dragon + had good sneak peak, although revealed a little too much for my taste.

      I recall reading somewhere PC's could start at 1,3,5 level or something like that? Any details? I recall CoS really kicked off at 3rd, and STK had 'filler' material for early levels before it really got rolling.
    1. Vampyr3's Avatar
      Vampyr3 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Raunalyn View Post
      I'm curious what the disclaimer says; that's always entertaining.


      "Disclaimer: this adventure will make your players hate you--the kind of simmering hatred that eats away at their souls until all that remains are little dark spheres of annihilation where their hearts used to be. PS don't forget to tear up their character sheets"
    1. JesterOC -
      Got it yesterday. Here are some of my first thoughts

      It is a huge adventure. With thoughts on characters with starting levels between 1st and 9th lvl.
      It has a list of around 50 named NPCs with short descriptions and pronunciations all in one handy page.
      The Death Curse is not messing around
      The start feels very sandboxy
      The end game looks crazy fun
      Feels like the most "living world" official 5e adventure so far (NOTE: I have not read TRoT, PotA nor SKT, so I can't compare to those).
      Feels closer to OotA in design, but with seemingly more side quests (just a feeling, could be wrong)
      Most compelling story so far. Everyone has a stake in this fight.
      Great terrain based random monster tables (feels like AD&D climate based random encounter charts, except only for Jungle)
    1. CapnZapp -
      Quote Originally Posted by JesterOC View Post
      Got it yesterday. Here are some of my first thoughts

      It is a huge adventure. With thoughts on characters with starting levels between 1st and 9th lvl.
      It looks to me an honest description would be an adventure from level 5-11, based on what the AMA guy is saying.

      Do note the adventure assumes actual XP levelling. Assuming they've done their math this time around, that should easily be double the content for a milestone-driven supplement for the same level range, so while I am contesting the level range you imply, I'm not contesting your "huge" characterization
    1. Raunalyn's Avatar
      Raunalyn -
      Quote Originally Posted by Vampyr3 View Post
      "Disclaimer: this adventure will make your players hate you--the kind of simmering hatred that eats away at their souls until all that remains are little dark spheres of annihilation where their hearts used to be. PS don't forget to tear up their character sheets"
      Is that really what it says? OMG, that is frikkin' hysterical!!!!
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