Pre-Order DLC comes to D&D with Xanathar's Guide to Everything

[Prakriti]

The feats were "Created by the D&D Beyond team."

I'm surprised WotC signed off on this (and if they didn't, they should really nip it in the bud). This has the potential to cause a lot of confusion and potential arguments about what is and isn't official material.

This can only be bad for the game.

[Barantor]

It's stuff like this that is moving me away from 5E.

[FlyingChihuahua]

It's basically just third party crap.

I don't think people will be wanting the Critical Role Campaign Guide to be AL legal or consider it core, and this is basically the same thing.

[SkidAce]

It's stuff like this that is moving me away from 5E.

I loathe and really dont like this kind of thing, but it will not influence my love of 5e's elegant system.

[Xaelvaen]

Since I'm going to be getting the guide on DnD Beyond anyway, interesting. If the feats aren't official, no big deal - always nice to get new homebrew content to play around with, and that's basically how I'll treat it. If it is official content, I'm sure Wizards has already reviewed the information and will let people know one way or the other.

No point getting bent out of shape when all it takes is a DM with any chops whatsoever to make sure his players can distinguish the two. I, for one, am quite excited by this. Besides, it's my guess that if the content is in any way successful, it'll show up in the DM's guild so it's not 'exclusive' to DnD Beyond.

[Ath-kethin]

Wow. That sure makes it worth paying for the same content a third time.

[JRedmond]

Wow. That sure makes it worth paying for the same content a third time.

Wow I'm pretty impressed you own two copies Xanathar's Guide to Everything already!

[TheSwartz]

Don't get me wrong, I'm actually finding DDB really helpful. But. Somewhere in this news, I think there's an "I told you so"...

[Xaelvaen]

Wow. That sure makes it worth paying for the same content a third time.

I wish people would finally realize that it's not available in multiple forms with the expectations of the same person buying it multiple times. It's there to give -options- so that more overall people can purchase the content, in a way that works best for them. Don't like the format, don't sweat the details.

[Gardens & Goblins]

Oh joy.

What's next, micro transacti......

..oh.

Why must folks sign up early to enjoy something, hopefully, of quality? ''But you don't have to! It's a way of showing su.....''. No. No it really isn't. It's a cheap psychological trick based on manufactured scarcity. Blackmail, even, based on the fear of missing out. I get that companies want to secure sales. That's not a crime. Pre-order bonuses (again, I have nothing against pre-ordering itself) smack of a failure to recognise the loyal customer, while at the same time standing to hit them the hardest. If you're going to buy anyway, you don't want to miss out, right? So you better pre-order for that bonus, right?

Pre-orders? Fine - go for it. Pre-order bonuses?

For the good of the hobby! Right.

[mach1.9pants]

Since I was going to buy it anyway I don't care. It's just normal way of the world, like the special cover only available from retailers (and, due to low numbers, are pretty much pre-order bonus too).

[Gardens & Goblins]

Since I was going to buy it anyway I don't care. It's just normal way of the world, like the special cover only available from retailers (and, due to low numbers, are pretty much pre-order bonus too).

Hey, if enough folks embrace it then so be it - majority vote and all that. And when enough folks choose to support such practices, it becomes the norm.

[Remathilis]

I don't see this as a big deal.

The 16 feats are exclusive to D&DB, but D&D isn't a video game where content is locked to a specific platform and only offered for a limited time. They're text; they'll be copy and pasted into a Doc file and shared on the internet within 24 hours. So D&DB users get them added to the database for free; and most people who buy dead tree copies will find them on the net quickly after with just a simple Google search.

The other two benefits only help D&DB users anyway, so that's a non-issue.

This is a nothing burger.

[MichaelSomething]

I thought people were complaining of not enough content coming out?

[Xaelvaen]

I don't see this as a big deal.

The 16 feats are exclusive to D&DB, but D&D isn't a video game where content is locked to a specific platform and only offered for a limited time. They're text; they'll be copy and pasted into a Doc file and shared on the internet within 24 hours. So D&DB users get them added to the database for free; and most people who buy dead tree copies will find them on the net quickly after with just a simple Google search.

The other two benefits only help D&DB users anyway, so that's a non-issue.

This is a nothing burger.

Another valid point - well said.

[lostsanityreturned]

I don't see this as a big deal.

The 16 feats are exclusive to D&DB, but D&D isn't a video game where content is locked to a specific platform and only offered for a limited time. They're text; they'll be copy and pasted into a Doc file and shared on the internet within 24 hours. So D&DB users get them added to the database for free; and most people who buy dead tree copies will find them on the net quickly after with just a simple Google search.

The other two benefits only help D&DB users anyway, so that's a non-issue.

This is a nothing burger.

Exactly, as this person said. If a company offers goods with limitations you disagree with just take the content illegally.

PDFs for everyone.

(poes law demands I explain that I am being sarcastic here)

Seriously though, if it is official content I will be angry but outside of that I don't care.
I buy books because they are far better for my eyes and quicker to flip through/reference. I also had no choice early on and wish to collect the books.

I run games on fantasy grounds mainly now and enjoy it the most for how it organises content (this includes for in person games and non published content)

So if I were wanting these feats and didn't want to purchase this book for a third time I would need to pirate r_r. And all of this before I even know how good the book is, at least with the other two options I can wait and see what the content/reviews are like before making the purchase.

With this I have to gamble or just not get the feats.

[TwoSix]

Good for them. More material is always fun, and being on a major distribution platform will give it more of a veneer of "officialness" that a significant portion of the playerbase seems to find important. Win/win here.

[MechaPilot]

1) Good for them for finally producing game content instead of mostly just repackaging pre-existing content.

2) Exclusive pre-order content? Thanks for confirming I made the right decision not to support DDB.

[Xaelvaen]

Again, I don't think it will stay exclusive for long. If they really wanted to maximize profit, they'll just sell the 16 feats separately so the pre-order people are just saving 5 or 10 bucks in the long haul.

[Mistwell]

Blackmail, even, based on the fear of missing out.

Blackmail? Giving you bonus stuff if you pre-order is blackmail?