The Goblin - Pathfinder 2's Newest Ancestry!

Today's Pathfinder 2nd Edition update is all about the Goblin! Paizo introduces the first (and the newest) of the game's Ancestries. As always, this information will be added to the Pathfinder 2nd Edition Compiled Info Page!



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  • Goblins! Last night Paizo revealed the first of the Ancestries - the Goblin!
    • Boosts to Dexterity and Charisma plus one other ability score of your choice
    • Flaw to Wisdom
    • 6 hit points
    • Speed 25'
    • Common and Goblin starting language
    • Darvision (see in the dark as though it were daylight)
    • Sample Ancestry feats --
      • Burn It -- bonus damage on fire spells or alchemical items, and increases persistent fire damage by 1 points.
      • Junk Tinkerer -- craft ordinary, poor quality items out of junk.
      • Razor Teeth -- 1d6 piercing damage.
      • Very Sneaky -- move additional 5' when taking the sneak action (normally half speed) and possibly render target flat-footed.
  • Jason Bulmahn on including Goblins -- "Concerning goblins and how they fit in Golarion: Times change and so do people's opinions. Goblins as PCs have been a part of our world since the first "We Be Goblins" adventure. Many of the comments here echo those from back during the launch of 3.0 when Half-Orcs returned to the game as a player choice. There was a lot of conflict at first, but the tone of them shifted over time. We always knew this would be a bit controversial and that there were some who would loudly proclaim "not at my table" and I get that. It's your table and your game after all. We are moving forward, trying to allow players to explore these characters, their culture, and their viewpoint. We are hoping to give you plenty of reasons, both mechanically and story-driven, to allow goblins in your game."
  • Mark Seifter on that flexible ability boost -- "It's one of ways you get to really customize your ancestry to fit your character concept, melding the story and life of your character to the mechanics. Plus you can play the class you want without worrying about as much of an uphill battle with ability scores if you don't match the bonuses from the race with the class you had it mind. Incidentally, it provides a really nice design space to much more easily create and handle subraces that have different ability modifiers... ;)"
  • Mark Seifter confirms that repairing an item is a untrained use but building is trained only.
  • Seifter on failed saves vs. dominate -- "the wording is subtly different now. Anyway, because it implies what you've said here, I wouldn't say "if you critically fail your save against dominate, you are completely under the spellcaster's control". There is still some possibility to resist a particularly abhorrent new order on a critical failure, but you're going to have to fulfill that first command no matter what."
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Michael Mandt

First Post
I saw this coming. Pathfinder has had it hard up for goblins for a long time now and it makes sense that they would add it to the Core.. If you don't want them in your games, just don't allow them at your table.
 





Keyframe18

First Post
in the original article on paizo's blog, they list it right with the bonuses.

"It includes the base goblin ability boosts (Dexterity and Charisma), ability flaw (Wisdom),"
 

Kaodi

Hero
So compared to PF1 every player race is going to have an additional flexible ability boost I guess, and humans will have two of them? And the way it is worded I am assuming that since "boosts" and "flaws" are described separately that you can use a flex boost to cover a flaw?

Edit: Has it been said yet that PF2 would use the generous model of Starfinder's level based stat boosts?
 

Kaodi

Hero
Having just watched the two Dead Rising movies I appreciate how Goblin Junk Tinkerers now set the standard for Golarion's apocalyptic zombie outbreaks.
 

Nikosandros

Golden Procrastinator
So compared to PF1 every player race is going to have an additional flexible ability boost I guess, and humans will have two of them? And the way it is worded I am assuming that since "boosts" and "flaws" are described separately that you can use a flex boost to cover a flaw?
It is stated explicitly in the blog post:
You could even gain a boost in Wisdom to negate your flaw!

Edit: Has it been said yet that PF2 would use the generous model of Starfinder's level based stat boosts?
Something similar:
You'll also amp up several of your ability scores every 5 levels. The process might be familiar to those of you who've been playing Starfinder for the last several months! There are, of course, a few tweaks, and we made all ability boosts work the same way instead of being different at 1st level. Learn it once, use it in perpetuity.
 
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