Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay's Core Character Stats
  • Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay's Core Character Stats


    Cubicle 7 has previewed the core character statistics of its upcoming Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay -- Weapon Skill, Ballistic Skill, Strength, Toughness, Initiative, Agility, Dexterity, Intelligence, Willpower, and Fellowship.





    "Today we’re going to tackle one of the most frequently asked questions about the new edition of Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay: what, exactly, is the stat line? So, with no further ado, here it is:
    • Weapon Skill (WS) – close-quarters fighting ability
    • Ballistic Skill (BS) – ranged fighting ability
    • Strength (S) – physical strength
    • Toughness (T) – hardiness and healthiness
    • Initiative (I) – speed of thought, reaction, and awareness
    • Agility (Agi) – coordination and natural athleticism
    • Dexterity (Dex) – ability to perform delicate manual tasks
    • Intelligence (Int) – powers of thought, analysis, and understanding
    • Willpower (WP) – strength of mind and determination
    • Fellowship (Fel) – ability to influence and befriend others

    Each of these Characteristics has a numerical value, along the same general scale as those used in the first and second editions of the game. That said, as WFRP4 has no upper limit, some nasty creatures have Characteristics soaring significantly higher than 100! Whatever the number, the first or ‘tens’ digit of each Characteristic is its bonus value, which is used in a variety of different ways, including limiting Talents and defining spells, and determining Wound loss in combat.
    Characteristics are used as the basis for your Skills. Much like second edition, skills come in two kinds, basic and advanced. Everyone has access to basic Skills, but advanced Skills can only be used if you have learned them, for example as part of your career.

    You’ll note that we have Dexterity and Agility — why both? Those familiar with RPGs will have seen those terms used interchangeably. Dwarfs are a great example for why we wanted to include each as a discrete Characteristic. Dwarfs are known for their exquisite works of craftmanship rather than for being flexible acrobatics, and we believed supporting that difference was important, allowing Dwarfs to make intricate machines, jewellery, and artefacts, but not have a natural flair for dance. So we used Dexterity to reflect manual dexterity, leaving Agility to define nimbleness of the body.

    Similarly, we wanted to differentiate between speed of body and speed of mind, so we have both Agility and Initiative. Agility is used for tests involving dodging, dancing and similar movements of the body. By comparison, Initiative is used for perceiving, reacting and intuiting what’s happening in the world around you."
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    1. lowkey13's Avatar
      lowkey13 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Morrus View Post
      Dwarfs are known for their exquisite works of craftmanship rather than for being flexible acrobatics, and we believed supporting that difference was important, allowing Dwarfs to make intricate machines, jewellery, and artefacts, but not have a natural flair for dance.
      I did my best to craft it
      When the call came down the line
      To make all the artifacts that were needed
      With these calloused hands of mine
      And sometimes I get nervous
      When I am led to the dancing floor
      I close my eyes, I clear my heart
      My spirit soars


      Are we dwarf or are we dancer?
      My sign is vital, my hands are cold
      And I'm on my feet
      Looking for the answer
      Are we dwarf or are we dancer?
    1. Vicent MartĂ­n Bonet's Avatar
      Vicent MartĂ­n Bonet -
      The whole, there will be further previews in the coming weeks doesn't bode well for the june release and makes me fear the AOSRP will face even further delays.
    1. CapnZapp -
      Okay, so they changed characteristics around a bit.
    1. Stereofm -
      Just take my money already
    1. pming's Avatar
      pming -
      Hiya!

      Still a bit on the fence, but at least I'm not off it yet. Not sure I'm too keen on the "no upper limit" for attributes. I'll make my decision on that when I see stats for an Ogre, a Halfling, a Dragon, a Human, a typical Chaos Warrior, and a Bloodthirster.

      Art wise...it's still too tame for me. Not horrible...just not...well...doesn't quite feel "Warhammer" to me. I still enjoy the feel, smell, background, grittiness, and 'style' of 1st edition. Then again the bar is probably almost unattainable due to my love of the art by Sibbick, Ackland and Blanche (and all of them, really, the Realms of Chaos books 1 and 2).

      We tried 2nd, I have about a dozen books for it, but it all just looked and felt so...hmm... commercialized? Maybe? Hard to put a finger on it, but 2nd definitely had a different look and feel. The rules had some nice changes, not *really* necessary, but still decent enough...but the background and 'tone' of it all felt too much like some stogey old CEO was told "Sir, we're putting out a 2nd edition of Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay next and wanted your input"...and the CEO replied: "Warhammer what? Oh, that kids game where you pretend to kill goblins and stuff, right?"..."Yes sir, Here's a copy of a couple of the old books. And here's our proposal for the new ones". [after the weekend...] "I read as much as I could of that Warhammer Fantasy game! It's so...so...violent and depressing! And you can play necromancers and demon summoners....I'm not sure I'm liking that for my grandkids. But, it makes a lot of money, so clean it up a bit, don't make it so harsh and savage, and for gods sake cover up some of the more sexual or gory parts! Just, I don't know, go over it with a sort of 'Comics Code Authority' comb or something. Oh, and no more Satanic imagery! I still remember the 80's Satanic Panic and BADD. Don't want to give them any ammunition".

      At any rate, I'm still on the fence with the new version, as I said. Guess we'll see how it turns out.

      ^_^

      Paul L. Ming
    1. David MacGillivray's Avatar
      David MacGillivray -
      I think I am more excited about this than Pathfinder 2e.
    1. mach1.9pants's Avatar
      mach1.9pants -
      A reply on FBook said they are still aiming for a PDF release in June, but it may make early July.

      I like the stat focusing, I often house rule that sort of thing in, esp for 6 stat type DnD.
    1. Yaarel -
      Warhammer has a great list of characteristis:

      "Weapon Skill, Ballistic Skill, Strength, Toughness, Initiative, Agility, Dexterity, Intelligence, Willpower, Fellowship."



      I appreciate the distinction between ‘agility’ and ‘dexterity’.

      The only characteristic that seems to be missing is ‘size’, which I feel is impacting enough to deserve to be a standard characteristic that characters can invest in to represent being big and its advantages.

      I assume ‘fellowship’ can be used to read emotions and motive, as well as intimidate?



      Personally, in my foursome, I cluster these characteristics as follows.

      Athletics
      • weapon skill (close-quarters accuracy bonus)
      • agility
      • initiative

      Toughness
      • toughness (hit points)
      • strength (close-quarters damage bonus, large heavy weapons)
      • ≈ size (reach)

      Perceptiveness
      • intelligence
      • dexterity
      • ballistics (range accuracy bonus)

      Sociability
      • willpower
      • fellowship
      • ≈ empathy



      Anyway, the fact, I can arrange the Warhammer characteristics clearly, corroborates how the system is getting the characteristics right. The definitions are clear, mutually exclusive, and useful.
    1. Mercurius's Avatar
      Mercurius -
      Love the art. Anyone know who the artist is?
    1. Ghal Maraz's Avatar
      Ghal Maraz -
      Probably Sam Manley.
    1. Ancalagon's Avatar
      Ancalagon -
      Quote Originally Posted by David MacGillivray View Post
      I think I am more excited about this than Pathfinder 2e.
      Likewise! But I am unsure if this will fix the major problems with the system... the previews have been limited.
    1. Psikerlord#'s Avatar
      Psikerlord# -
      My gut reaction is I dont like the split of agility and dexterity. Confusing and unnecessary. I can live with it though, once I get used to it.
    1. EthanSental's Avatar
      EthanSental -
      The C7 site has the pdf releasing in June with the book in July...home stretch to seeing it in some form.
    1. mach1.9pants's Avatar
      mach1.9pants -
      Quote Originally Posted by EthanSental View Post
      The C7 site has the pdf releasing in June with the book in July...home stretch to seeing it in some form.
      From Facebook, 3 days ago, re PDF publish date: "Cubicle 7 Entertainment: We're working on it Corey, if it isn't June it shouldn't be far into July. We'll keep you posted on progress here. The previews will lead up to the retail launch though, so it's not just about the PDF release"
    1. Jhaelen -
      Quote Originally Posted by Psikerlord# View Post
      My gut reaction is I dont like the split of agility and dexterity.
      I think there's probably more RPGs out there that have this split than RPGs that combine both into the same stat.
      Imho, it all depends on how granular you want your basic stats to be. It can also help to provide a better balance: You generally don't want a single stat to be too 'useful', otherwise every character will try to max it.

      Personally, I'm a bit surprised that 'Weapon Skill' and 'Ballistic Skill' are considered stats. Even the naming suggests, that they're not! Although, I suppose in a game where there's 'only war', it makes sense ;-)
      (Or is that only the case in Warhammer 40k?)
    1. Ancalagon's Avatar
      Ancalagon -
      Oh I hadn't seen the piece of art before for some reason! I like that a lot!

      ... is it on sale now?
    1. Wardook's Avatar
      Wardook -
      Defiantly more excited for this than Pathfinder 2e. Talked to C7 at Origins and they were looking at July for PDF and book in late July or August.
    1. mach1.9pants's Avatar
      mach1.9pants -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ancalagon View Post
      Oh I hadn't seen the piece of art before for some reason! I like that a lot!

      ... is it on sale now?
      It's available for pre order, PDF is out either the end of the month or early next. Not 100% sure of the physical copies. There is a real neat, but expensive collectors box, the core rules book, or a starter box (looks similar to 5E)
    1. Ancalagon's Avatar
      Ancalagon -
      The game is delayed https://mobile.twitter.com/cubicle7/...974629376?s=19
    1. mach1.9pants's Avatar
      mach1.9pants -
      You'd kinda hope they would email all those with pre-orders rather than some random tweet. Not something I have anything to do with, I'm not much of a twitt
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