Warhammer FRPG 4th Ed PDF Pre-Order Goes Live on DriveThruRPG!
  • Warhammer FRPG 4th Ed PDF Pre-Order Goes Live on DriveThruRPG!


    Cubicle 7 Entertainment have launched the digital pre-order for the forthcoming Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay Fourth Edition Rulebook on DriveThruRPG. Although not available to download right away, the pre-order means customers will be sent a download link as soon as the rulebook is uploaded. And itís not long before we get the chance to travel back to the Old World again.


    A few companies have started doing digital pre-orders with DriveThru. Monte Cook Games offered their two new core books on digital pre-order through DriveThru earlier this year, and it seems like itís a trend that could become popular with companies.

    The Fourth Edition of Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay will contain everything you need to go adventuring in the grim and perilous lands of the Old World. So get the gang together, create your (anti)heroes and set off to make your way through the vile corruption, scheming plotters and terrifying creatures intent on destruction!

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    1. Olgar Shiverstone's Avatar
      Olgar Shiverstone -
      In the grim darkness of the 1st century, you can play as a ... dwarf with an orange mohawk! A buff spiky war hamster! A rat-man ninja! A bard in a purple cowl with a stick! An Amazonian warrior with big hair and a sensible frock! Pointy-finger hat lady!
    1. Barantor's Avatar
      Barantor -
      The preview copy is out for backers now, pretty good job so far.
    1. fjw70's Avatar
      fjw70 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Barantor View Post
      The preview copy is out for backers now, pretty good job so far.
      Was this Kickstarted?
    1. vdal -
      I think they meant for those folks who pre-ordered a copy.
    1. jrowland -
      At DriveThruRPG you can pre-order the pdf.

      At Cubicle 7 you can pre-order a hard copy. Those who pre-ordered thru cubicle 7 received an advanced pdf copy (looks good so far, page references missing, good art). Not sure if you pre-order now you would get advanced pdf copy (I think the advanced pdf was more of a "sorry for the delay, thanks for sticking with us" thing)

      Its a pretty hefty 345 page pdf with 'missing' maps, index, etc at the back. Looks and feels like 1st/2nd ed warhammer, so nothing crazy new. That said, it does some things differently which may or may not be popular with grognards, but looks solid and well thought out so far.
    1. Enevhar Aldarion's Avatar
      Enevhar Aldarion -
      Quote Originally Posted by fjw70 View Post
      Was this Kickstarted?
      No, C7 does not bother with Kickstarter. You had to pre-order from them.
    1. pogre's Avatar
      pogre -
      So far the rules look solid.

      I am a little disappointed in the art. I'm not a fan of Zweihander, but I think they hit closer to the mark in terms of art and atmosphere. Art's not a huge deal for me, but I know it is for others.

      I think fans of the Warhammer world and 2nd edition are going to be fans.

      Going to sit down and make some characters with my sons this afternoon and see how it goes.
    1. AngusA's Avatar
      AngusA -
      Quote Originally Posted by Enevhar Aldarion View Post
      No, C7 does not bother with Kickstarter. You had to pre-order from them.
      C7 has done a number of Kickstarters but Games Workshop arenít fans of KS for their brands. Thatís why C7ís fantasy RPG, Ulisses 40k RPG and all the new board and card games have had pre-order campaigns instead of crowdfunded ones.
    1. Enevhar Aldarion's Avatar
      Enevhar Aldarion -
      Quote Originally Posted by AngusA View Post
      C7 has done a number of Kickstarters but Games Workshop arenít fans of KS for their brands. Thatís why C7ís fantasy RPG, Ulisses 40k RPG and all the new board and card games have had pre-order campaigns instead of crowdfunded ones.
      Maybe they used to, but they have not in years, as far as I know. When was their last Kickstarter for an PRG product? They did not have to waste time on Kickstarter for The One Ring or Adventures in Middle-Earth or anything recent for Doctor Who. As far as I can tell, they really made their name once The One Ring released and have not needed Kickstarter since then.
    1. Morrus's Avatar
      Morrus -
      Quote Originally Posted by Enevhar Aldarion View Post
      Maybe they used to, but they have not in years, as far as I know. When was their last Kickstarter for an PRG product?
      Sigil & Sign in November, IIRC.

      (Edit - May 2017)
    1. mach1.9pants's Avatar
      mach1.9pants -
      Yeah if you get the 'pre-order' PDF now from RPGNow, it is downloadable immediately, but it is not the finalised PDF. If you purchase hardcopy from C7 site, you get a link for the the PDF on RPGNow. They're collecting errata and stuff first, which I always like. 100 fans much better than 1 or 2 pro proof readers.
    1. Enevhar Aldarion's Avatar
      Enevhar Aldarion -
      Quote Originally Posted by Morrus View Post
      Sigil & Sign in November, IIRC.

      (Edit - May 2017)
      Yeah, I always lose track of the Cthulhu-related stuff because it seems like everyone who does Cthulhu stuff uses Kickstarter for it, so I forget which company does what for that. It also almost seems like Chaosium prefers companies to use Kickstarter for licensed Cthulhu books. But that is moot now, since right after that one was released, C7 had their license from Chaosium expire.
    1. TrippyHippy's Avatar
      TrippyHippy -
      The PDF still needs a fair amount of work, largely because it adds a degree of structure to the rules that wasn't in previous editions - and needs some clarification in places, accordingly. There is also some editing needed, with references to skills that aren't on the list etc.

      The rule that has characters being rewarded XP for keeping random rolls is clever though (as opposed to just choosing or spending points). It means that players are gently encouraged to avoid making optimised characters all the time, while still keeping the option open for players who simply don't like the way the dice fall.
    1. Barantor's Avatar
      Barantor -
      Yeah sorry about the confusion, I meant preorder.

      (Got a KS preview copy around the same time of Hall of Judgement for GURPS)
    1. mach1.9pants's Avatar
      mach1.9pants -
      Quote Originally Posted by TrippyHippy View Post
      The PDF still needs a fair amount of work, largely because it adds a degree of structure to the rules that wasn't in previous editions - and needs some clarification in places, accordingly. There is also some editing needed, with references to skills that aren't on the list etc.

      The rule that has characters being rewarded XP for keeping random rolls is clever though (as opposed to just choosing or spending points). It means that players are gently encouraged to avoid making optimised characters all the time, while still keeping the option open for players who simply don't like the way the dice fall.
      I like the random vs XP, I think I first saw it in Hackmaster, but I guess it's been around as an idea. I think you can complete your first career level by accepting the rolls, need another 25 XP to move to the next.
    1. TwoSix -
      Quote Originally Posted by mach1.9pants View Post
      I like the random vs XP, I think I first saw it in Hackmaster, but I guess it's been around as an idea. I think you can complete your first career level by accepting the rolls, need another 25 XP to move to the next.
      Yea, I've been trying that to figure that out. To finish a career, you need 8 skills with 5 advances, 3 characteristics with 5 advances, and 1 talent. You get 5 advances for 8 skills, 5 total characteristic advances, and the talent as part of character creation. So you should need 10 more characteristic advances, so you need 250 XP to get those, and then 100 more to change the career.

      If you accept all your rolls for race, career, and attributes, you should get 120 XP total, so you're about 1/3 of the way there.

      If I've missed anything, I'd appreciate it, since the rules are a little complicated.
    1. Psikerlord#'s Avatar
      Psikerlord# -
      Quote Originally Posted by mach1.9pants View Post
      Yeah if you get the 'pre-order' PDF now from RPGNow, it is downloadable immediately, but it is not the finalised PDF. If you purchase hardcopy from C7 site, you get a link for the the PDF on RPGNow. They're collecting errata and stuff first, which I always like. 100 fans much better than 1 or 2 pro proof readers.
      Hah, I've not seen this approach to proofreading before. But I kinda like it.
    1. Psikerlord#'s Avatar
      Psikerlord# -
      Quote Originally Posted by TwoSix View Post
      Yea, I've been trying that to figure that out. To finish a career, you need 8 skills with 5 advances, 3 characteristics with 5 advances, and 1 talent. You get 5 advances for 8 skills, 5 total characteristic advances, and the talent as part of character creation. So you should need 10 more characteristic advances, so you need 250 XP to get those, and then 100 more to change the career.

      If you accept all your rolls for race, career, and attributes, you should get 120 XP total, so you're about 1/3 of the way there.

      If I've missed anything, I'd appreciate it, since the rules are a little complicated.
      uughh this sounds, well, complicated
    1. Wardook's Avatar
      Wardook -
      Quote Originally Posted by TwoSix View Post
      Yea, I've been trying that to figure that out. To finish a career, you need 8 skills with 5 advances, 3 characteristics with 5 advances, and 1 talent. You get 5 advances for 8 skills, 5 total characteristic advances, and the talent as part of character creation. So you should need 10 more characteristic advances, so you need 250 XP to get those, and then 100 more to change the career.

      If you accept all your rolls for race, career, and attributes, you should get 120 XP total, so you're about 1/3 of the way there.

      If I've missed anything, I'd appreciate it, since the rules are a little complicated.
      Yeah 20 XP for race, 50 XP for career and 50 XP for Attributes. Depending on how scarce XP is, it's probably better to get the character you want to play. For instance I rolled Halfling and kept it for 20 XP. I then rolled Villager as a career, no thank you, so I rolled twice more and received Thief and Smuggler. I went with Thief for 20 XP. I then rolled Attributes random and received decent for a Thief, Halfling bonuses lean this way anyhow, and received 50 XP for keeping Attributes and not rearranging them. Character creation is more detailed than that of course, but I like how it hearkens back to the roll and keep you used to get in editions past yet allows for a modern feel anyhow.
    1. mach1.9pants's Avatar
      mach1.9pants -
      Quote Originally Posted by Psikerlord# View Post
      uughh this sounds, well, complicated
      It's very old school, I'm just creating a Viking character for Runequest 3, there is maths and stuff OMG! But once you are actually doing it, it's not complex. But explaining, or theory crafting with a white room, is tricky. Best to just make a PC or two, then it's on your sheet rather than in your head.
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