Here's What's In That $500 Beadle & Grimm Platinum Edition of Waterdeep: Dragon Heist
  • Here's What's In That $500 Beadle & Grimm Platinum Edition of Waterdeep: Dragon Heist


    If you've been wondering what you'll get for your $500, wonder no more! Footage and images straight from Gen Con reveal the expensive box's contents!

    Click the image to watch a video!


    What you get in the box:

    • Waterdeep: Dragon Heist broken down into 8 smaller books
    • A selection of important maps and all the major artwork
    • A custom DM Screen -- "Waterdeep: Dragon Heist is a city-based adventure, and that means tons of NPCs for a DM to keep track of. The exclusive Platinum Edition DM screen will be packed with quick reference guides to help you keep track of who’s who, who’s aligned with whom, and where they’re likely to be found. On the player side, we feature some of our favorite artwork from the module."
    • 22 miniatures (2 large, 20 regular sized) including the beholder shown below.
    • A range of battle maps.
    • A stack of encounter cards including stats for creatures and more.
    • Custom handouts including letters, journals, newspapers, and more.
    • Two large canvas maps, one of Waterdeep and the other secret for some reason.
    • A dragon coin.
    • Other stuff they can't tell us about.


    DM Screen


    Beholder Miniature


    Faction Objects


    Volo's Guide to Waterdeep


    Encounter Cards


    Canvas Maps


    Dragon Coins


    Comments 53 Comments
    1. guachi's Avatar
      guachi -
      Good stuff!

      Pricey, but everything is stuff that I'd use. Too pricey. But I give them credit for making good choices.
    1. Parmandur's Avatar
      Parmandur -
      Well, it is going all out. I'm satisfied with just the book, but I appreciate the quality they are producing. Probably a solid business investment for anybody planning to stream the campaign.
    1. Parmandur's Avatar
      Parmandur -
      Speculating on the AP itself, this suggests that chapter four will be a "master key," tying together chapters 5-8 separately. Basically, four modules with a common MacGuffin, in addition to the starting module. So, basically five adventure modules with a full Waterdeep Gazetter and Urban play rules. Nice.
    1. LordEntrails's Avatar
      LordEntrails -
      Still a woefully inadequate description in my opinion. For instance;

      All of the most important maps
      All of the major artwork
      How many maps? Which ones are "most important"? "Major" artwork? Don't know who's opinion that is, but again, how many? What size and formats?

      22 mini's, ok, good to know the number. And I'm not worried about what they actually are. But apparently they are all unpainted? So for $500 I have to paint my own...

      How many is
      bunch of BATTLE MAPS
      ??
      And though I like the idea of isomorphic maps that can be re-arranged for different battles int eh city, those monochromatic maps are not very impressive If the rest are like that, not interested in using them.

      Encounter cards... again, they don't say how many. 2 or 20? I do like the idea that they hang on the GM screen and have art for the players.

      This is interesting;
      why just roll a perception check when they can try and find it for themselves, hidden in the beautifully rendered artwork?
      Sounds fun, but of course totally re-ignites the problem between character and player capabilities.

      multiple handouts
      I love handouts. But is this 2 or 20?

      two large canvas maps
      Great! We know how many. But what size is large? 24 x 36 inches? or 12 x 16 inches?

      four bonus encounters
      This is good. Don't need to know more than this.

      5 fully-realized characters custom-made for Waterdeep
      Very good idea. But 5? That's a pretty measly set of character to select from. Especially given how easy it is to create characters and the cost of printing a double sided sheet.

      6 exclusive wearable faction insignias
      What happens when two players choose the same faction? Only got 1 insignia...

      Dragon coins... fun. But you know I'm going to ask, how many?

      In short, not enough information to justify purchase. I get that they can't give away lots of things. That's fine, but come on, no reason not to tell us how many maps, how many hand outs, etc.
    1. Chaderick -
      Lord Entrails, you read my mind.
    1. LordEntrails's Avatar
      LordEntrails -
      Quote Originally Posted by Chaderick View Post
      Lord Entrails, you read my mind.
      I don't like being ... negative, but the only reason I can think of why they wouldn't say how many of a thing they include is because it will be viewed as an inadequate number.

      I will note in the video I could see 3 dragon coins and one of the fabric maps, which looked maybe 20x30"?
    1. R_J_K75's Avatar
      R_J_K75 -
      Again looks like there is no scale on the map of Waterdeep. Has anyone ever figured this out? I dont think Ive ever seen a scale on any map of Waterdeep except perhaps the 3.5 City of Splendors hardcover.
    1. MNblockhead's Avatar
      MNblockhead -
      I have a better impression of this than I first had, but I can't see myself plunking down 500 for this. Having painted minis would help. While these are the higher-end Nolzur's miniatures, I would think that the kinds of people who would pay for something like this have more money than time and/or art talent--which I why I might be spending a few hundred on Wizkids booster bricks this year, but find this set over priced.

      I have a large-format printer, so the maps are not that important for me, but it would be nice to have. I especially like city tiles that can be configured on the fly for various city encounters.

      The coins are a nice touch, but I would rather they dropped props that have no real use in play and spend the money on painted minis. Same goes for the handouts.

      You do get the book, which is nice, so you don't have to spend 40-50 AND buy this. But I'm going to want the book anyway. So this just means I'll have two copies of it.

      It includes a code to get the digital version on D&D Beyond. First time for something like this in 5e and it is about time--too bad it is only for a $500 premium product. Would be nice if hardcovers bought at marked-up FLGS prices came with D&D Beyond codes.

      I like what Beadle & Grimm are doing and if I had more money, I would be tempted to buy this to just support the concept. If enough people by this, other companies are going to look at it and say "hey, I can do that and for less money."

      Buy focusing on game aids used heavily in play and doing away with the fancy table props, a more affordable boxed adventure-accessories set could be made. I don't really need the book in a different format. The encounter cards are nice, but you still have to dig through and select them, I don't know that is making things *that* much easier compared to looking in the book and I usually have all the encounters printed in a table in alpha order anyway, or I use Herolabs. The DM screen is nice, but I generally prefer the newer core-set D&D screen. I've not found the adventure-path-specific screens that useful. But they could be, buy mixing core-rule references with adventure-specific tables. I withhold my judgment on the usefulness of the B&G screen until I see it. The coins are fun, but I don't see them be used in play. Maybe as expensive inspiration tokens. I don't need cloth maps and I don't need realistic scrolls for my handouts.

      What I would really like to see Hasbro or Wizkids do is offer a boxed set with

      (1) pre-painted minis for all encounters (at least minis for all monsters and NPCs not available from prior 5e prepainted mini releases)

      (2) glossy paper handouts and battle maps, I don't need fancy materials and realistic props, just something nice to look at a conveniently pre-printed, especially large-format sheets like battle maps

      (3) terrain tiles that fit the setting

      That's it. Terrain, minis, handouts. Cardstock and glossy paper with the prepainted minis making up the bulk of the price.

      No more buying bricks of boosters or buying in eBay to get the minis I need.
      No more sizing and printing my own battlemats
      No more buying sets of tiles that I barely use to make settings that are time-consuming to set up and still don't exactly match the feel of the adventure

      Offer discounts or a D&D Beyond code when you buy a book+accessories set.

      The B&G set is soooo close to what I want but goes wrong with unpainted minis, instead it offers high-quality non-gaming props and handouts and maps on fancy materials and aids like encounter cards and DM screen, which are nice, but not needed.
    1. Zarithar's Avatar
      Zarithar -
      Nice if you have the $$$ to spare.
    1. DaveMage's Avatar
      DaveMage -
      It's $500 and the minis aren't even painted?
    1. LordEntrails's Avatar
      LordEntrails -
      Maybe if they ever create 'gold', 'silver' or 'copper' versions...
      I know they are starting, intentionally, at the high end, but I think they are going to sink themselves by their high-end not being high enough, and too expensive for general gamers.
    1. pogre's Avatar
      pogre -
      $500 is not far from a decent 3d printer. And, you can do a lot of nice adventure pieces with that!
    1. Mercurius's Avatar
      Mercurius -
      Nice idea but this is just a head-scratcher and I can't help but think it is going to be a colossal failure, sales-wise. I could see a deluxe set for $150, maybe $200, but half a thousand dollars?!
    1. paintphob's Avatar
      paintphob -
      Quote Originally Posted by R_J_K75 View Post
      Again looks like there is no scale on the map of Waterdeep. Has anyone ever figured this out? I dont think Ive ever seen a scale on any map of Waterdeep except perhaps the 3.5 City of Splendors hardcover.
      There are three products that have a map with scale of Waterdeep, that I am aware of. In order of increasing focus, they are:
      City of Splendor: Waterdeep (3.5 hardback) -1 in. = 750 ft.
      The Forgotten Realms Atlas - 1 in. = 700 ft.
      City System - 1 in. = 100 ft.

      IMHO, the City System is most likely the correct one. There is consistency between the large scale city map and the smaller scale (1 square = 5 ft) building maps.
      The scale in CoS:W should be halved (1 in. = ~375 ft.), this would get it closer to the scale of the two earlier products. It would also cut down on odd things like the High Road being almost 200 ft. across.
    1. Demetrios1453's Avatar
      Demetrios1453 -
      Quote Originally Posted by paintphob View Post
      There are three products that have a map with scale of Waterdeep, that I am aware of. In order of increasing focus, they are:
      City of Splendor: Waterdeep (3.5 hardback) -1 in. = 750 ft.
      The Forgotten Realms Atlas - 1 in. = 700 ft.
      City System - 1 in. = 100 ft.

      IMHO, the City System is most likely the correct one. There is consistency between the large scale city map and the smaller scale (1 square = 5 ft) building maps.
      The scale in CoS:W should be halved (1 in. = ~375 ft.), this would get it closer to the scale of the two earlier products. It would also cut down on odd things like the High Road being almost 200 ft. across.
      They've just (through the help of divination magic presumably) pre-planned for the day the High Road will need to be a 20-lane freeway.
    1. Wrathamon -
      If they were painted then I might be more interested. Also splitting the book up makes me also have to go buy the book, because I have to
    1. Polyhedral Columbia's Avatar
      Polyhedral Columbia -
      i like the faction pins and coin.
    1. R_J_K75's Avatar
      R_J_K75 -
      I suppose I shouldve have said in my OP that I have never seen an accurate scale. I just always found it frustrating that the 2E City of Splendors map was such a strange T-shape layout, Volos Guide and Waterdeep and the north are too small, and I could wall paper my whole house with the City Systems map. I wish the 2E City of Splendors map had a scale on it, thats the best one IMO. Because the location tags are different on every map, depending on which book your using to run your campaign, or multiple books/editions they are essentially not interchangable.

      I did some calculations and came up with the following for the 2E CoS map.

      City Systems Boxed Set
      Southgate measures 3.000
      Scale: 1”=100’

      City of Splendors Boxed Set
      Southgate measures 1.000
      Scale: 1”=300’

      11250’ Long x 5250’ Across. Approximately 2 miles long x 1 mile across.

      20 Speed 2 mph, 30 speed 3 mph, cart or wagon 2 mph.

      These never sat right with me because it seemed too small. A character could walk the entirety of the city in an hour? I suppose with crowded streets and wagons, etc it may take longer. I fall back on the 2E turn system to determine how long it takes to get from point A to point B.

      Huge oversight by TSR, its a shame. I would love to see each ward get its own poster size map with location labels on them instead of just numbers, including street names, alleyways and landmarks included too. I bet alot of people would pay $25-$40 for a map pack like that.
    1. Grimstaff -
      Looks like a fun box o'stuff. I might be tempted to pick this up.
    1. LordEntrails's Avatar
      LordEntrails -
      Anyone compare the scales to what was used in FR Interactive Atlas?
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