Pages From The Upcoming Nautical D&D Book!
  • Pages From The Upcoming Nautical D&D Book!


    These screencaps were posted by GM Leigh (of Mage Productions) on Twitter after being showed on WotC's Twitch stream, presented by Kate Welch and Nathan Stewart. Note the old Saltmarsh trilogy references!

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    1. blakesha's Avatar
      blakesha -
      *takes out his barely used copy of "Sea of Fallen Stars" from 2nd Edition Forgotten Realms*
      *puts pretty new cover on it with 5E logos*
    1. Connorsrpg's Avatar
      Connorsrpg -
      So hoping this is a nautical themed splat book with heaps of new player and DM options. A lot of creatures too of course.

      More than happy for an adventure or two, but please, not more huge adventure paths.

      What I would really like to see are some mini-settings. A mini setting in this book would be pretty cool.

      (Ravnica was a fantastic mix of what I would like to see going forward. I don't play Magic; I am never likely to run a Ravnica game, but that book was so inspiring as a DM. There is so much in there I want to borrow. One of my favourite 5E books by far. If this is a water setting done the same way, I will be happy).
    1. Connorsrpg's Avatar
      Connorsrpg -
      I also don't really understand the need for 'conversions'. You could run the 1E Saltmarsh series with 5E straight out of the book. Do people really need official DCs for every trap and skill check? A few new stats for sahuagin etc would be very helpful and all you need.

      The U1-3 (Saltmarsh) modules are fantastic, but I don't need a 5E version of them. That being said, if new players know nothing about them, then this would be an ideal introduction.
    1. Jay Verkuilen's Avatar
      Jay Verkuilen -
      Quote Originally Posted by Connorsrpg View Post
      I also don't really understand the need for 'conversions'. You could run the 1E Saltmarsh series with 5E straight out of the book. Do people really need official DCs for every trap and skill check? A few new stats for sahuagin etc would be very helpful and all you need.

      The U1-3 (Saltmarsh) modules are fantastic, but I don't need a 5E version of them. That being said, if new players know nothing about them, then this would be an ideal introduction.
      If it's just those, I agree with your point. I mean, Tales from the Yawning Portal was rather... appropriately named. However, I could see a nice setup for a campaign that expands things out, making use of the Saltmarsh series as a basis.
    1. Parmandur's Avatar
      Parmandur -
      Quote Originally Posted by Connorsrpg View Post
      I also don't really understand the need for 'conversions'. You could run the 1E Saltmarsh series with 5E straight out of the book. Do people really need official DCs for every trap and skill check? A few new stats for sahuagin etc would be very helpful and all you need.

      The U1-3 (Saltmarsh) modules are fantastic, but I don't need a 5E version of them. That being said, if new players know nothing about them, then this would be an ideal introduction.
      That was WotC line of thinking at the start of 5E, if you read the intro to Princes of the Apocalypse they talk about not wanting to do a remake of Temple of Elemental Evil because it could be run from the old books as-is, which they were and are selling still. I wager they found that most people either didn't know they could, or felt intimidated, and then when DMsGuild came along the module specific conversion guides started selling like hot-cakes.
    1. gyor's Avatar
      gyor -
      Quote Originally Posted by Parmandur View Post
      In 2017, the two adventure products had the same archvillain: still pretty different books. If this is an underwater Sahuagin-fest in the style of Aquaman, and the AP is a Sword Coast sandbox (as Perkins has laid hints towards in the past, the upcoming comic series, etc.), those can be even more different in terms of material.
      Another Swordcoast Sandbox, no thanks. Sea of Fallen Stars okay, but more Swordcoast, no deal.
    1. Paul Farquhar's Avatar
      Paul Farquhar -
      Quote Originally Posted by Connorsrpg View Post
      I also don't really understand the need for 'conversions'. You could run the 1E Saltmarsh series with 5E straight out of the book. Do people really need official DCs for every trap and skill check? A few new stats for sahuagin etc would be very helpful and all you need.

      The U1-3 (Saltmarsh) modules are fantastic, but I don't need a 5E version of them. That being said, if new players know nothing about them, then this would be an ideal introduction.
      U1-3 have been out of print for many years though, and some people prefer not to use downloads. They also like to have glossy modern presentation.
    1. Paul Farquhar's Avatar
      Paul Farquhar -
      Quote Originally Posted by gyor View Post
      Another Swordcoast Sandbox, no thanks. Sea of Fallen Stars okay, but more Swordcoast, no deal.
      Move it?
    1. Parmandur's Avatar
      Parmandur -
      Quote Originally Posted by gyor View Post
      Another Swordcoast Sandbox, no thanks. Sea of Fallen Stars okay, but more Swordcoast, no deal.
      *shrug* OK. The hints at a future AP from Perkins have involved Lantan and the Kraken Society, so smart odds are not on the Sea of Fallen Stars.
    1. pukunui's Avatar
      pukunui -
      Quote Originally Posted by gyor View Post
      Another Swordcoast Sandbox, no thanks. Sea of Fallen Stars okay, but more Swordcoast, no deal.
      No deal as in you’re just not gonna buy it? No deal as in you’re going to stop them from making it? Or what?
    1. Satyrn's Avatar
      Satyrn -
      Quote Originally Posted by pukunui View Post
      No deal as in you’re just not gonna buy it? No deal as in you’re going to stop them from making it? Or what?
      Maybe it's no deal as in "well of course I'm still gonna buy it, but I'm certainly not gonna play it."

      Or is it just me that's done that?
    1. Azzy's Avatar
      Azzy -
      Quote Originally Posted by pukunui View Post
      No deal as in you’re just not gonna buy it? No deal as in you’re going to stop them from making it? Or what?
      I've seen this sort of post before about previous products from different posters. I get a feeling that it's—because this product doesn't specifically cater to the poster, that it shouldn't have been made, WotC should feel bad for making it, and everyone else on the internet should care because of feelings of self-importance.

      I mean, it's okay to not like every product (I certainly don't)... Just remember WotC isn't creating product specifically for (general) you, and not everyone cares if a product doesn't meet with (general) your personal approval—just don't buy the thing and move on.

      Of course I could be completely off-base on this particular post, but it's certainly the impression that I get.
    1. IchneumonWasp's Avatar
      IchneumonWasp -
      Quote Originally Posted by Connorsrpg View Post
      What I would really like to see are some mini-settings. A mini setting in this book would be pretty cool.

      (Ravnica was a fantastic mix of what I would like to see going forward. I don't play Magic; I am never likely to run a Ravnica game, but that book was so inspiring as a DM. There is so much in there I want to borrow. One of my favourite 5E books by far. If this is a water setting done the same way, I will be happy).
      I'd be interested in that as well. It would certainly fit my play style and would allow me to place some location/region right into my game world.

      And I also completely agree with you about Ravnica. It's a really amazing book if you give it a chance. The factions are really flavourful and easy to adapt.
    1. MonsterEnvy's Avatar
      MonsterEnvy -
      Don't they normally announce the next book by now.
    1. vpuigdoller's Avatar
      vpuigdoller -
      Quote Originally Posted by MonsterEnvy View Post
      Don't they normally announce the next book by now.
      Yes, since they haven't yet, the announcement should be soon, I guess, but who knows what they are thinking or planning.
    1. Whizbang Dustyboots's Avatar
      Whizbang Dustyboots -
      Quote Originally Posted by Hussar View Post
      Cool. Of all the "classic" modules, I've never so much as seen the U series. Would be loads of fun to give it a whirl.
      It's a really good mini-adventure path, and includes a lot of stuff not regularly seen in D&D adventures, despite everything in it being around since the OD&D days.

      EDIT: Well, there's one element that came after the OD&D booklets. (Spoiler) There's an illusionist in the series, and those only showed up in The Dragon. They then made the leap to a rulebook in the 1E PHB. Still, everything in the U series dates back to, the 1E PHB or earlier. Pretty classic stuff.
    1. Parmandur's Avatar
      Parmandur -
      Quote Originally Posted by vpuigdoller View Post
      Yes, since they haven't yet, the announcement should be soon, I guess, but who knows what they are thinking or planning.
      Greg Tito said they would announce this book "in about a month" pretty close to a month ago, so I expect something will happen soon.
    1. Demetrios1453's Avatar
      Demetrios1453 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Parmandur View Post
      Greg Tito said they would announce this book "in about a month" pretty close to a month ago, so I expect something will happen soon.
      Sneak peaks generally indicate that an announcement is relatively imminent.
    1. bedir than's Avatar
      bedir than -
      Quote Originally Posted by Parmandur View Post
      Greg Tito said they would announce this book "in about a month" pretty close to a month ago, so I expect something will happen soon.
      Over the past week we've had the snowiest month in 50 years. Yes, one week but more snow than any month for 50 years. The next pass at the Artificer was delayed. A couple streaming shows were skipped. The Renton School District (home of WotC) hasn't had a full school day in a week and was cancelled several days in that stretch.
    1. Parmandur's Avatar
      Parmandur -
      Quote Originally Posted by bedir than View Post
      Over the past week we've had the snowiest month in 50 years. Yes, one week but more snow than any month for 50 years. The next pass at the Artificer was delayed. A couple streaming shows were skipped. The Renton School District (home of WotC) hasn't had a full school day in a week and was cancelled several days in that stretch.
      Yup, their work seems delayed slightly: this is why they avoid promising specifics, life happens.
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