New Dragon+ (Feb 2019): Saltmarsh & Greyhawk edition
  • New Dragon+ (Feb 2019): Saltmarsh & Greyhawk edition


    The new Dragon+ issue (WotC's in-house online magazine) is out, and it has some Greyhawk, with input from Luke Gygax! Plus previews of Ghosts of Saltmarsh, and more.



    Table of Contents:

    • Welcome Letter
    • Imagining the Ampersand
    • In the Works (...D&D items in production now includes further details on Ghosts of Saltmarsh,...)
    • A Darkened Wish
    • Oddities, Creatures, & Companions (...new tables to accentuate the "weird" of characters, plus new companions...)
    • Terror of Undermountain
    • Best of the DM's Guild
    • Behind the Screen: Greyhawk (...a deep dive into this deliciously dark world, before Luke Gygax shares a more personal view of this classic setting)
    • Maps of the Month (a lot of Undermountain maps, not sure if these are new or part of the adventure)
    • Extra Life
    • Video & Highlights
    • Fiction: Law & Order
    • Next Issue:
    • Staff Page:
    Comments 33 Comments
    1. jayoungr's Avatar
      jayoungr -
      Best of the DM's Guild includes a free adventure to download.
    1. dave2008's Avatar
      dave2008 -
      I'm still going through it, but this seems like the best Dragon+ yet. Quite a bit of interesting content. I hope future installments are as good as this one.
    1. Parmandur's Avatar
      Parmandur -
      Quote Originally Posted by dave2008 View Post
      I'm still going through it, but this seems like the best Dragon+ yet. Quite a bit of interesting content. I hope future installments are as good as this one.
      They've been building it up slowly, but it is pretty close to a full magazine now.

      The Greyhawk article was fascinating.
    1. dave2008's Avatar
      dave2008 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Parmandur View Post
      They've been building it up slowly, but it is pretty close to a full magazine now.

      The Greyhawk article was fascinating.
      Yep, my thoughts as well. I just started it when I realized...I should get back to work! I'll have to finish it when I get home
    1. Ralif Redhammer's Avatar
      Ralif Redhammer -
      Definitely dug it. Still hoping for a proper 5e Greyhawk release, but really, most of the tools are there already. It sounds like they've got a good grasp of "how is this world different from the Forgotten Realms?" Which, to me, in any fantasy setting, is the important question these days (though I would add "and Middle-Earth" to that as well). I think they've sussed out the grit, the moral ambiguity, and, thankfully, the weirdness.

      The next time I start a new campaign, I think it'll be set in Greyhawk. Hopefully there'll be something official by then!
    1. Jester David's Avatar
      Jester David -
      That's a pretty hefty section on Greyhawk. I just wish the PDF links would work for me.
    1. lkj's Avatar
      lkj -
      That was a long section on Greyhawk. I keep trying to decide if all this Greyhawk publicity lately (Mearls interview, Dragon+) is a sign that

      1) They have something in the works and are building up to it
      2) Mearls is trying to drum up support so he can do something
      3) This is the sort of support they are willing to provide

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    1. dave2008's Avatar
      dave2008 -
      Quote Originally Posted by lkj View Post
      That was a long section on Greyhawk. I keep trying to decide if all this Greyhawk publicity lately (Mearls interview, Dragon+) is a sign that

      1) They have something in the works and are building up to it
      2) Mearls is trying to drum up support so he can do something
      3) This is the sort of support they are willing to provide

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      I hope number 1 and fear number 3
    1. lkj's Avatar
      lkj -
      Quote Originally Posted by dave2008 View Post
      I hope number 1 and fear number 3
      You and me both. Though I can't deny I'd understand the choice.

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    1. dave2008's Avatar
      dave2008 -
      Quote Originally Posted by lkj View Post
      That was a long section on Greyhawk. I keep trying to decide if all this Greyhawk publicity lately (Mearls interview, Dragon+) is a sign that

      1) They have something in the works and are building up to it
      2) Mearls is trying to drum up support so he can do something
      3) This is the sort of support they are willing to provide

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      Hmmm, after reading a bit more, it really looks like #3 to me. That whole section on Greyhawk for 5e seems like it is all we are going to get to me. Hopefully I'm wrong.
    1. lkj's Avatar
      lkj -
      Quote Originally Posted by dave2008 View Post
      Hmmm, after reading a bit more, it really looks like #3 to me. That whole section on Greyhawk for 5e seems like it is all we are going to get to me. Hopefully I'm wrong.
      I'm not so sure. I know what you mean in that they are listing a lot of existing resources you can use. But the article is exactly the kind of thing you would write to get people thinking about the setting in anticipation of something coming up. But since WotC don't announce releases early, they can't just leave people who are reading the article hanging. They have to point to existing resources. Combined with the fact that Mearls has been talking about finding a way to release Greyhawk in 5e for quite awhile, it's enough to keep my hopes alive.

      Of course, that's all speculation. Maybe it is #3. Or maybe it will be eventually because Mearls won't be able to find a good business case to do more.

      But I can dream!

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    1. Nebulous's Avatar
      Nebulous -
      Financially I don't know if it is feasible enough for them to put out a hardback Greyhawk sourcebook, although I'm sure it would make a lot of people happy, it might not overall make ENOUGH people happy.
    1. lkj's Avatar
      lkj -
      Quote Originally Posted by Nebulous View Post
      Financially I don't know if it is feasible enough for them to put out a hardback Greyhawk sourcebook, although I'm sure it would make a lot of people happy, it might not overall make ENOUGH people happy.
      I think there's a good chance you're right. The only context where it makes sense is if it's done as part of one of their adventures, ala Storm Kings Thunder (which had an awful lot of setting info in it).

      Maybe more likely is something more akin to the Eberron pdf. Just a matter of whether it's worth the cost of development time then. And if it does well, then, maybe, you consider a hardback.

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    1. vpuigdoller's Avatar
      vpuigdoller -
      I loved the Greyhawk article. Luke has so many good anecdotes from his childhood that are very cool and very informative.
    1. vpuigdoller's Avatar
      vpuigdoller -
      To be honest all I would want is a gazetteer directed at both players and dm, with an updated map, which there are options around. Class options, gods and magic items specific to the setting. That's it! Also, I think they can make a lot of money by reprinting the 1983 boxed set "World of Greyhawk" as a premium reprint edition.
    1. dave2008's Avatar
      dave2008 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Nebulous View Post
      Financially I don't know if it is feasible enough for them to put out a hardback Greyhawk sourcebook, although I'm sure it would make a lot of people happy, it might not overall make ENOUGH people happy.
      I think they should probably keep all hardbacks Forgotten Realms oriented - continues to keep a clear message for new comers. However, I think they should open up all old settings on DMsGuild with new content (similar to Eberron) and old released via PDF and POD. I think that would be a win/win. The hardcovers are sold at all manner of stores and keep a clear message for beginers, and those in the know can go to DMsGuild to get there specific setting content. Seems pretty obvious to me.
    1. Sword of Spirit's Avatar
      Sword of Spirit -
      Quote Originally Posted by dave2008 View Post
      I think they should probably keep all hardbacks Forgotten Realms oriented - continues to keep a clear message for new comers. However, I think they should open up all old settings on DMsGuild with new content (similar to Eberron) and old released via PDF and POD. I think that would be a win/win. The hardcovers are sold at all manner of stores and keep a clear message for beginers, and those in the know can go to DMsGuild to get there specific setting content. Seems pretty obvious to me.
      This ship has already long since sailed on keeping all the hardcovers Forgotten Realms oriented though. Only SCAG and the mega-adventures follow that rule. All the other books are explicitly setting-inclusive.
    1. Parmandur's Avatar
      Parmandur -
      Quote Originally Posted by lkj View Post
      That was a long section on Greyhawk. I keep trying to decide if all this Greyhawk publicity lately (Mearls interview, Dragon+) is a sign that

      1) They have something in the works and are building up to it
      2) Mearls is trying to drum up support so he can do something
      3) This is the sort of support they are willing to provide

      AD
      Based on his Dragon Talk interview, option 2 seems credible. Though they are publishing a book this Spring set primarily in Greyhawk.
    1. dave2008's Avatar
      dave2008 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Sword of Spirit View Post
      This ship has already long since sailed on keeping all the hardcovers Forgotten Realms oriented though. Only SCAG and the mega-adventures follow that rule. All the other books are explicitly setting-inclusive.
      Setting inclusive is fine, just not setting specific.
    1. Sword of Spirit's Avatar
      Sword of Spirit -
      I really like that they included Luke Gygax's contrasting interpretation of Greyhawk's original tone. The other interpretation, while enjoyable to read and get ideas from, seems a bit forced--an intentional attempt to make Greyhawk different. That's probably a good marketing angle, but including a credible alternative interpretation like that is the kind of goodwill building action I like to see.

      Which brings up a point I think the discussions we regularly have here about D&D marketing strategies fail to address, but which I think the D&D team themselves is actually quite aware of and trying to incorporate: the financial value of building goodwill with consumers. One consideration that most people take into account to some degree or another when making purchases is how much they like the company they are buying from. That's rarely the only consideration, but it is a consideration. I know it applies to me and my friends--some places of business we actively avoid, and others we only shop at if we can't find something elsewhere, despite those places being less expensive. Some of the things that might not seem like the most profitable on the surface (such as doing less profitable things to make older fans happy) actually might increase profits in the long run, because those older fans will not only buy your products, they will introduce their kids and others, and they'll put their seal of approval on the current game. I know some Pathfinder players who wouldn't even look at 5e because they were upset at WotC for 4e and/or other issues from the past. Anyway, for some reason that element of that article just made me think of that, even if the actual reason for it might have been more about respect for Luke Gygax.
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