Fantasy Grounds Usage Stats Through Q1 2019: D&D Up, Pathfinder Down
  • Fantasy Grounds Usage Stats Through Q1 2019: D&D Up, Pathfinder Down


    The latest usage stats for Fantasy Grounds are in... and D&D is up again in the latest updated stats from Quarter 1 of 2018 through to Quarter 1 of 2019, rising to a whopping 69% of the market since the stats from Q1 2018! Pathfinder drops from 12% last year to 9% (possibly due to the edition change coming soon), and Savage Worlds drops nearly 2%.







    Ruleset Total Games Sum of total
    5E 619,071 68.97%
    PFRPG 84,214 9.38%
    SavageWorlds 38,958 4.34%
    SFRPG 21,654 2.41%
    3.5E 18,550 2.07%
    MoreCore 15,435 1.72%
    CoreRPG 13,774 1.53%
    Call Of Cthulhu 13,465 1.50%
    4E 9,440 1.05%
    Star Wars 8,163 0.91%
    PFRPG2 7,979 0.89%
    GURPS 6,883 0.77%
    AD&D 6,344 0.71%
    Castles and Crusades 4,817 0.54%
    WFRP 4,397 0.49%
    DSA 3,679 0.41%
    RolemasterClassic 3,476 0.39%
    Cypher System 3,287 0.37%
    Fate Core 2,869 0.32%
    VtM 2,412 0.27%
    WH40K 2,285 0.25%
    Numenera 2,000 0.22%
    DCCRPG 1,644 0.18%
    Mongoose Traveller 1E 1,577 0.18%
    Shadowrun 1,197 0.13%
    Grand Total 897,570 100.00%


    "CorePG" is the "general" module Fantasy Grounds uses when there isn't a more specific one.

    The changes from Q1 2018 (rounded to the nearest whole) are as follows. Note that share can go down while a game's total number of games goes up as the pool expands, so a reduction in market share doesn't equate to a reduction in sales, games played, profit, or anything else.


    D&D 5E +4%
    Pathfinder -2.6%
    Savage Worlds -1.7%
    D&D 3.5 +1%
    Star Wars -0.1%
    Starfinder +1.4%
    Call of Cthulhu -0.5%


    Comments 34 Comments
    1. pauldanieljohnson's Avatar
      pauldanieljohnson -
      Am I missing it, or is there not a single super-hero themed RPG showing up? That seems amazing to me, considering the popularity of super-hero themed films, TV shows, et cetera.
    1. Morrus's Avatar
      Morrus -
      Quote Originally Posted by pauldanieljohnson View Post
      Am I missing it, or is there not a single super-hero themed RPG showing up? That seems amazing to me, considering the popularity of super-hero themed films, TV shows, et cetera.
      You might ask why the A Song of Ice & Fire RPG isn't up there, or why Star Wars 70 times less popular than D&D. I just guess screen popularity doesn't translate to RPG popularity.
    1. smiteworks's Avatar
      smiteworks -
      Licensing also plays a big role in this. Officially licensed rulesets almost always outperform community rulesets by a large margin. Most RPGs for super hero or other film based items are already licensed out to a tabletop RPG publisher. Getting a license with the publisher for these would mean that the proceeds would now need to split to an additional party and the contracts become more and more complicated. As an example, we have official licenses with Green Ronin but only for their first party game systems and not for stuff that they had to license from someone else - A Song of Ice and Fire , DC Comics based content, etc. The same thing limits the ability to get any sort of official Star Wars RPG support.
    1. Parmandur's Avatar
      Parmandur -
      It isn't that Pathfidner decreased at all over the year, it's just that 5E grew by about 50% and grew the total pie size.
    1. Morrus's Avatar
      Morrus -
      Quote Originally Posted by Parmandur View Post
      It isn't that Pathfidner decreased at all over the year, it's just that 5E grew by about 50% and grew the total pie size.
      Yes. I said exactly that.
    1. Parmandur's Avatar
      Parmandur -
      Quote Originally Posted by Morrus View Post
      Yes. I said exactly that.
      What, do you expect us to read before going half-cocked??? That would go against all of our cherished Interwebz traditions.
    1. dave2008's Avatar
      dave2008 -
      Quote Originally Posted by Parmandur View Post
      It isn't that Pathfidner decreased at all over the year, it's just that 5E grew by about 50% and grew the total pie size.
      I had the same thought. I was looking to see how much PF decreased and when it wasn't there I realized they must be talking about %.
    1. SMHWorlds's Avatar
      SMHWorlds -
      I am a little shocked at how well Rolemaster Classic does compared to others.
    1. robus's Avatar
      robus -
      The pie chart does give the impression that 5e is chomping down on all the others...
    1. Paragon Lost's Avatar
      Paragon Lost -
      Looks like everyone but DnD 5e are basically stagnant in growth. 5e though looks like it's growing at not a bad rate.
    1. pauldanieljohnson's Avatar
      pauldanieljohnson -
      Quote Originally Posted by Paragon Lost View Post
      Looks like everyone but DnD 5e are basically stagnant in growth. 5e though looks like it's growing at not a bad rate.
      Agreed; and it begs the question as to whether the market is growing in size. To which I believe the answer is yes - RPGs are growing in popularity, and 5e is responsible for the lion's share of that growth, as opposed to growing by cannibalizing customers from other games.
    1. Paragon Lost's Avatar
      Paragon Lost -
      Quote Originally Posted by pauldanieljohnson View Post
      Agreed; and it begs the question as to whether the market is growing in size. To which I believe the answer is yes - RPGs are growing in popularity, and 5e is responsible for the lion's share of that growth, as opposed to growing by cannibalizing customers from other games.

      That would be my take on it as well. Which makes me happy that there is some growth going on in the tabletoprpg genre.
    1. MNblockhead's Avatar
      MNblockhead -
      The growth in 5e will eventually result in the growth of other systems. There will be a number of people who will look to diversify the games they play or who get tired of D&D and want to try something else. It'll be interesting to see how long it will take to observe this trickle down effect. I would have thought we'd see more of this already. I started trying and buying other systems about a year after getting into 5e.

      Then again, I've never played a Fantasy Grounds game and I don't think any of the games I play other than D&D have FG support.
    1. Parmandur's Avatar
      Parmandur -
      Quote Originally Posted by MNblockhead View Post
      The growth in 5e will eventually result in the growth of other systems. There will be a number of people who will look to diversify the games they play or who get tired of D&D and want to try something else. It'll be interesting to see how long it will take to observe this trickle down effect. I would have thought we'd see more of this already. I started trying and buying other systems about a year after getting into 5e.

      Then again, I've never played a Fantasy Grounds game and I don't think any of the games I play other than D&D have FG support.
      I would imagine most of the trickle down will eventually go to games that do something substantially different thematically, if anything.
    1. Hussar's Avatar
      Hussar -
      Until we see a significant slowdown in the growth of 5e, I doubt we'll see much trickle down to be honest. After all, for growth rates to remain steady, the only way trickle down works is if we're actually growing faster than those leaving for other games. Which would require an even faster growth rate than we're seeing currently.

      I imagine eventually it will, but, I wouldn't expect much trickle down for some time yet.
    1. Yaarel -
      Am I remembering correctly? Are 4e enthusiasts diminishing along with 3e Pathfinder enthusiasts?
    1. Hussar's Avatar
      Hussar -
      Well, if you look at the total number of games played, rather than percentages, it appears that 4e and PFRPG are pretty stable overall. Not growing, not shrinking.
    1. MNblockhead's Avatar
      MNblockhead -
      Quote Originally Posted by Hussar View Post
      Until we see a significant slowdown in the growth of 5e, I doubt we'll see much trickle down to be honest. After all, for growth rates to remain steady, the only way trickle down works is if we're actually growing faster than those leaving for other games. Which would require an even faster growth rate than we're seeing currently.

      I imagine eventually it will, but, I wouldn't expect much trickle down for some time yet.
      Well, you don't have to leave 5e to try another system. I got back into TTRPGs with 5e after decades out of the hobby. Within a year I was buying other systems. When I join games on Roll20, they are almost always one-shot/pickup games of more obscure systems. When I play at conventions, I may play a 5e game or two, but mostly use it as an opportunity to play other systems.

      I don't currently use Fantasy Ground, but if I did, I would likely be starting with 5e, but would also be trying other systems now and then.

      I don't think I'm that unusual in this regard and I am optimistic that the popularity of 5e will bring new players to other systems as well.
    1. Morrus's Avatar
      Morrus -
      Quote Originally Posted by MNblockhead View Post
      Well, you don't have to leave 5e to try another system.
      Yeah. You don’t leave sandwiches when you have a pie. You just have a pie.
    1. Hussar's Avatar
      Hussar -
      Fair enough I suppose. OTOH, I think that Fantasy Grounds may be a poor judge for this sort of thing. Most people who are going to play 5e on Fantasy Grounds will likely buy at least the Core 3 - which is generally around another 100-150 dollars plus a couple of supplements. That's over and above any expenditures of print books on top. It's not exactly cheap to run a 5e D&D game on Fantasy Grounds. Meaning that I doubt folks will be quite so blase about abandoning 5e for other games. I could be wrong though. But, it seems to me if you bought a DM's license (150 bucks), you're likely out about 300-500 dollars sunk into running a 5e game.

      And, it depends on whatever system you want to change to as well. If there isn't a license, then you are stuck entering everything into the game table manually and that's a ton of work and it's not exactly the easiest thing to do either.

      I guess my point is, Fantasy Grounds will likely remain 5e centric for the foreseeable future, but, that might not be representative of the larger hobby.
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