New Unearthed Arcana: Revised Artificer
  • New Unearthed Arcana: Revised Artificer


    WotC just released the revised Artificer UA. Now featuring a new, pet-less archetype: The Archivist!




    In February, we presented a revised version of a new character class: the artificer, a master of magical invention. Today we return to that class, now with even more content! Here’s what’s been added:
    • New subclasses—the Archivist and the Battle Smith
    • A revised spell list, including spells from Xanathar’s Guide to Everything
    • New infusions—Enhanced Wand, Repeating Shot, and Repulsion Shield
    • A revision to multiclassing—round up when determining spell slots

    Comments 116 Comments
    1. Parmandur's Avatar
      Parmandur -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ancalagon View Post
      Has anything changed besides the addition of spells and 2 sub-classes?

      I, for one, am happy that Tiny Servant has been added to their spell list. Tiny Servant is the best spell in the game. It is known.
      Some of the details of the multuclassing rules, and expanded Invocation options.
    1. Travis Henry's Avatar
      Travis Henry -
      I like the "suggested appearances" of the Artificial Minds (basically, "awakened" objects). I'd add these:

      For mineral (glass, stone, metal) objects, could also have a personality like a dwarf, gnome, or earth elemental, as these are all traditionally "earth spirits."
      For plant objects, rather than just "bespectacled visage or treant", could also have a personality like a dryad or other plant spirit.
    1. WeaponizedInk's Avatar
      WeaponizedInk -
      Is this the third version of this class in the last year?

      (this is NOT a criticism. I really, really appreciate that we are seeing an iterative process on some of these more complex classes.)
    1. Yaarel -
      Quote Originally Posted by Travis Henry View Post
      I like the "suggested appearances" of the Artificial Minds (basically, "awakened" objects). I'd add these:

      For mineral (glass, stone, metal) objects, could also have a personality like a dwarf, gnome, or earth elemental, as these are all traditionally "earth spirits."
      For plant objects, rather than just "bespectacled visage or treant", could also have a personality like a dryad or other plant spirit.
      I agree.

      At the same time, I am ok with the pets being golem-like, artificial, and even mechanical, to convey the flavor that the Artificer is using artifice to construct things. To me this has a Renaissance vibe, when building ‘automatons’ was popular.
    1. Kurotowa's Avatar
      Kurotowa -
      Quote Originally Posted by WeaponizedInk View Post
      Is this the third version of this class in the last year?
      No. There have been three Artificer UA in total but the first draft, the one with the Gunsmith, was put out over two years ago in January 2017. The one previous to this was three months ago, but there's almost no changes to that material. Today's release is mostly adding two additional subclasses and expanding the spell list to include XGtE.

      So while I do expect iterative revisions based on feedback, because that's what UA is for, we're not there yet.
    1. collin's Avatar
      collin -
      Okay, I'm convinced WotC. Stop right there! I think you have done a very good job bringing the artificer to 5e (much better than the first attempt in UA). I am already planning on playing an artificer in the next adventure I get involved with, Eberron or not.
    1. Kurotowa's Avatar
      Kurotowa -
      Quote Originally Posted by Yaarel View Post
      At the same time, I am ok with the pets being golem-like, artificial, and even mechanical, to convey the flavor that the Artificer is using artifice to construct things. To me this has a Renaissance vibe, when building ‘automatons’ was popular.
      I expect there will be a lot of room for personalized style in the flavor text for your PC's pet. A High Elf's artistic melding of metal and wood won't be the same as a Rock Gnome's gear powered mechanism will differ from a Mountain Dwarf's animated stone construct.
    1. UngeheuerLich's Avatar
      UngeheuerLich -
      Quote Originally Posted by iltharanos View Post
      Agreed. The line below, just by itself, taken straight from the Iron Defender feature, would do wonders for the Beast Master's pet.

      "[Y]ou take a bonus action on your turn to command it (the Iron Defender) to take one of the actions in its stat block or the Dash, Disengage, or Help action."
      That would still leave the beastmaster unable to use TWF.
      Imagine you chose twf as your weapons style and then you decide to take beastmaster.
      While I don't hate the two weapon fighting rule, maybe it needs a general revision to not take a bonus action but using a bonus action improves it. Or we need the twf style remove the bonus action cost.
    1. gyor's Avatar
      gyor -
      The Battlesmith is a better Paladin then the Paladin and a better ranger then the Ranger.

      A Battlesmith 3/Wizard Bladedancer 17 is going to be insanely good and powerful.

      Archivist isn't pet free, it's just that it's pet is mostly mental, but housed in a physical object.

      Archivist can turn an ordinary none magical holy symbol into mind, making it a impliment for both artificer and cleric spells making it the perfect choice for Cleric/Paladin multiclassing with artificer.

      I love this class and it's subclasses. You have a more blaster type in the artillerist, a half caster fighter type in the Battlesmith, a healer with minion in the Alchemist, and the rebirth of the old Archivist class sort of in the Archivist.

      The base abilities are good, the spell list fun and thematic. I say publish it as is.
    1. Chryssis's Avatar
      Chryssis -
      i think just adding something like "[Y]ou take a bonus action on your turn to command it (the Iron Defender) to take one of the actions in its stat block or the Dash, Disengage, or Help action until you give it another command." would solve the TWF bonus action conflict.
    1. Gradine's Avatar
      Gradine -
      I also really like this version of the Artificer. I agree; ship as is.

      Also, a reminder: homonculi were always a fairly core class feature for Artificers.
    1. Stacie GmrGrl's Avatar
      Stacie GmrGrl -
      Still not as good as other Artificer and Alchemist and Craftsman classes by 3rd party developers.
    1. Azzy's Avatar
      Azzy -
      Quote Originally Posted by UngeheuerLich View Post
      That would still leave the beastmaster unable to use TWF.
      Imagine you chose twf as your weapons style and then you decide to take beastmaster.
      While I don't hate the two weapon fighting rule, maybe it needs a general revision to not take a bonus action but using a bonus action improves it. Or we need the twf style remove the bonus action cost.
      Yeah, maybe TWF needs to be fixed, too.
    1. Zardnaar's Avatar
      Zardnaar -
      Starting to think the bonus action twf thing was a mistake. Well that or the great weapon master feat.
    1. cbwjm's Avatar
      cbwjm -
      Make TWF like earlier editions as just a thing you can do with your off-hand when you make an attack and the problem is solved. I know some people might not like free g up the bonus action for other things but I don't really think it is a major issue.
    1. 5ekyu's Avatar
      5ekyu -
      Quote Originally Posted by Azzy View Post
      Yeah, maybe TWF needs to be fixed, too.
      I would say this is just an example of poor choices by the player. How is this different from any other character choosing more than one bonus sction attack pair of options?

      Making your "bonus action attack" be the beast attack instead of your blade attack fits to me pretty solid.
    1. Ancalagon's Avatar
      Ancalagon -
      Is the multiclass rounding-up only for artificers?
    1. Ancalagon's Avatar
      Ancalagon -
      That Iron defender is a huge HP bag... Say you have 18 int at level 5, so 5 x (5 + 4 +2) = 55 hp... That's a pretty stout defender.
    1. bedir than's Avatar
      bedir than -
      Quote Originally Posted by Ancalagon View Post
      That Iron defender is a huge HP bag... Say you have 18 int at level 5, so 5 x (5 + 4 +2) = 55 hp... That's a pretty stout defender.
      That wouldn't be how order of operations works.

      5 times 5 plus 4 plus 2 is 31
    1. Ancalagon's Avatar
      Ancalagon -
      Quote Originally Posted by bedir than View Post
      That wouldn't be how order of operations works.

      5 times 5 plus 4 plus 2 is 31
      Tell me, a level 5 character, how many times do you apply your constitution bonus?
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