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Old 27th March 2003, 12:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Andromeda TV Show Races

anyone ever try to make d20 versions of the races from the tv show andromeda?

here is a quick thought i had in regards to the "nietzchans" (sp?)

constitution +4 - they are suppossed to be tougher and stronger than regular humans, stronger in my opinion, meaning more physical fit, healthy, and resistant to injury. in the show, many "nietzchans" are shown ranging anywear from almost plump to somewhat skinny

charisma -2 or -4 - "nietzchans" have a superiority complex, which grates on many other races, as well as being known as untrustworthy

arm spurs - these bone spikes on their forearms do 1d4 points of damage

enhanced senses - there senses are suppossed to be better than humans so they get a +2 racial bonus to spot and listen checks

enhanced saves - they are once again tougher than the average human so they get a +2 racial bonus to all saves

i figure they should be around ECL +1.

this is just a rough draft.
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Old 27th March 2003, 02:50 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't think you went far enough. They are genetically superior in every way except for their lack of foresight and rashness. They are stronger, tougher, more agile, smarter, and genereally more beautiful and charismatic. Realistically, nietzcheans would be more like:

+2 Str, +2 Dex, +2 Con, +2 Int, -2 Wis, +2 Cha.

i.e. very hard to manage as a race without a very high ECL.
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More charming, more attractive, but also superior & with a bad reputation.

I'd only give them the Charisma bonus if there was a mechanic for giving them the Infamy feat ala Star Wars, or such like.

Seems to me that their Con was their greatest ability all round, and that different 'catsoffs' (sp?) had different breeding emphases.

What bone spurs?
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Definitely a negative to diplomancy checks against all other races. Also, a bonus to intimidate with all other races. I'd leave charisma as a no bonus. The personality negatives balance the beauty bonuses.

Also, due to their abilities, I'd let them choose a favoured class at level one (from any class) or distribute them by tribe. Tyr, Orca Pride, would be a fighter and it would likely be the favoured class of the tribe.

All in all, this is going to look neat when it's done. Kudos for the initiative.
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my interpretation of being "genetically superior" is in regards to their overall health and physical well being in comparison to the average human. in my opinion, the only evidence i have seen on the show where a nietzchan could be considered genetically superior are their resistance to diseases, ailments, their endurance, and stamina. in addition, i believe they have greater senses: sight, hearing, etc., than a regular human. other than that, i do not believe that a nietzchan is physically stronger, dexterous, or smarter than the average human. i think the fact that nietzchans are "tough" or "hard to kill" results from them having a high constitution.

on the show, i have seen "nietzchans" (sp?) with different body types, ranging from almost fat (the "nameless" nietzchan extras that are killed during gun fights) and fairly skinny ones (Spike from BtVS who plays a noble from the Saba-Jaguar pride and Cuculun (sp?) a general from the Drago-Catsov (sp?), and the leader of a band of nietzchan pirates during one of the first episodes during the first season. in fact, Tyr is the only truly muscular and physically well developed nietzchan i have seen in the show.

the bone spurs are the spike like appendages on their fore arms. although i very rarely see them used for fighting, i feel that they would do some decent damage, maybe 1d4 or 1d6.

i also wanted to make the nietzchans a fairly playable race, not something too unbalanced.
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here is a rough draft of my interpretation of a magog

Con +4
they are fairly tough and hard to kill
Cha -4
infamous race not known for their social skills, hated by most
Int -2
only a few magog on the show have shown the ability to speak

Natural AC +1
from the thick hide of fur that covers their body

Natural Attacks
1d6 damage from claws
1d4 bite

Paralytic Breath Weapon
as a standard action, able to paralyze a creature with a successful touch attack. no damage is done, but creature must make a FORTITUDE save (DC 15) or become paralyzed.
(not sure how many times a day)

Infest
any creature wounded by a magog's claws or bite must make a FORTITUDE save (DC 13) or becoming infected with magog eggs

Enhanced Senses
+2 to spot and listen
not sure if this is shown in the show, but i figure that the magog have big noses and ears so they should have some enhanced senses

*i believe magog have incredible stamina and endurance, or at least are fairly tough. in one episode, rev bem was able to hold his breath and fight off hypothermia for more than a few hours when the maru sank underwater. not sure how to classify this ability
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I interpreted it as a strange type of indestructability on Rev's part. Essentially, the Endurance feat and a +4 to Fort saves, racially speaking.

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