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Maybe it'll keep 3rd-party companies from jumping the gun and releasing a "we got this 4e book out before WotC's similar core book" book that's full of innacuracies and errors.
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In fact, I hope they wait until after 4e is released to the general public to release the SRD m'self.
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In fact, I hope they wait until after 4e is released to the general public to release the SRD m'self.
The 3rd party publishers have employees to pay. The later they receive the SRD, the more it pushes back their release schedule. The further their release schedule gets pushed back, the longer they have to go with very little money coming in.
Maybe it'll keep 3rd-party companies from jumping the gun and releasing a "we got this 4e book out before WotC's similar core book" book that's full of innacuracies and errors.
Well, if that's what WotC has in mind, maybe they could you know... say so to Third-party publishers instead of telling them "it's coming". Now that said, that's a rather knee-jerk reaction of mine: I don't actually believe that's WotC's intent, in the first place. I don't want to, in fact.
I'd be shocked if they receive it before the PHB is completely finalized. I don't see that as necessarily a bad thing, either; revision tracking between a SRD, the master PHB document, and outside publishers would be a logistical nightmare.
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Maybe it'll keep 3rd-party companies from jumping the gun and releasing a "we got this 4e book out before WotC's similar core book" book that's full of innacuracies and errors.
Well, you may see some companies rushing products out the door trying to release close the the core book launch. If publishers get the SRD when the PHB is on shelves I wouldn't be suprised if they'd feel pressure to get a book to print to get in on the initial popularity of 4E.
Well, you may see some companies rushing products out the door trying to release close the the core book launch. If publishers get the SRD when the PHB is on shelves I wouldn't be suprised if they'd feel pressure to get a book to print to get in on the initial popularity of 4E.
I would expect the SRD to be released close to the time that the core books get shipped to warehouses and distributors. That way they're not on the shelves yet, and 3rd party publishers get to release something in conjunction with the 4e core books. One would imagine that WotC might be thinking that 'Hey, if we release, people might be more inclined to buy if they see lots of support'. But I doubt they'll release the SRD so a 3rd party publisher can get a jump on them, and even if they do, I'm sure there will be clauses that prevent it.
The 3rd party publishers have employees to pay. The later they receive the SRD, the more it pushes back their release schedule. The further their release schedule gets pushed back, the longer they have to go with very little money coming in.
Then perhaps they shouldn't rely on one license to make their living?
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I'd be shocked if they receive it before the PHB is completely finalized. I don't see that as necessarily a bad thing, either; revision tracking between a SRD, the master PHB document, and outside publishers would be a logistical nightmare.
Right. I think the issue is that they seemed to go to play-testing a little (or more then a little) late. (And then delayed release of the PHB by one month).
But I do expect the rules part of the PHB to be done soon. And I wouldn't be surprised if certain 3rd party publishes got something at the end of December or begining of January. I would be surprised if it was latter then that.
BUT. I do wonder: don't they know some playtesters? It seems that, if they really wanted access to current rules, they could have gotten it. (though they couldn't admit it). But this is clearly speculation.
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This is one of the reasons that I wish that WOTC had announced 4E for Summer 2009. Plenty of time to get playtesting in, 3rd parties set up, and still have some "crossover" type products to whet appetites until the game came out.
Or they could have continued the current progress, but announce it NEXT year. Now it's too late. They're locked in...
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I've done work with Dark Quest. It appears 3rd Party Publishers will recieve the new SRD no sooner than the publication of the 4.0 PHB, and probably not until later (the new SRd is unlikely to be posted the same day as the new PHB is released). Between the release of the new PHB and the SRD, everyone will simply be using the PHB.
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From a purely business perspective, I wonder if WotC new focus on modules (the bread and butter of most large 3rd party companies) may have something to do with this. It's just speculation but I'm thinking...why give 3rd parties the ability to compete with the new H series modules as soon as they hit shelves, especially with Paizo commiting itself to adventure paths and their loss of Dungeon & Dragon magazine. It just seems more profitable if, when the new edition is released, you have no choice but to turn to WotC for some start up adventures. The price point on their new adventures also makes me consider this as a possible scenario.
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Right. I think the issue is that they seemed to go to play-testing a little (or more then a little) late. (And then delayed release of the PHB by one month).
But I do expect the rules part of the PHB to be done soon. And I wouldn't be surprised if certain 3rd party publishes got something at the end of December or begining of January. I would be surprised if it was latter then that.
I figure by DDXP (late Feb/early March) at the latest for the SRD. This puts an incredible crunch on 3rd party publishers to release 4E product by GenCon. I would hope that WotC would work with 3PP to get at least a few products in the pipeline. I am not holding my breath however.
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