4E Haters Lonely?

[Grimstaff]

I have decided to be nice to the 4E haters in this forum, because I have come to the conclusion that they are somewhat lonely, and probably a little sad.

I draw my evidence from the fact that they come here at all.

For example, I abhor basketball. I never visit basketball websites, or post vitriol on the various teams' messageboards with stuff like, "Why the Lakers are ruining my favorite game!" or whatever. Since I do not like something, I do not participate in online discussions about it.

On the other hand, I love Radiohead. So I participate in discussions on their messageboards. Its great. And, oddly, I never see posts like "how In Rainbows (their new album) means Radiohead sucks now!" or anything like that. As if, folks who don't like Radiohead have better things to do with their time.

Yet here is a site for 4E, and haters post hate. And doom and gloom. Why?

Why not just post happy stuff on forums for stuff they do like, like 3E or 2E or 1E or whatever, rather than taking the time to come to a 4E forum and whine?

Must be lonely...

[JoeGKushner]

This will not end well.

[Rechan]

In before thread closing.

[HeavenShallBurn]

This isn't going to end well.

[Grimstaff]

Please notice the "humor" disclaimer.

Beneath is an honest confusion as to why some folks spend so much time trying to talk the rest of us out of trying out a new edition.

See my post here for a non-humor angle:
http://www.enworld.org/showpost.php?...&postcount=342

[Greylock]

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Ibl

[JoeGKushner]

Originally Posted by Grimstaff

Please notice the "humor" disclaimer.

Beneath is an honest confusion as to why some folks spend so much time trying to talk the rest of us out of trying out a new edition.

See my post here for a non-humor angle:
http://www.enworld.org/showpost.php?...&postcount=342

So if a simliar post talking about 4e lovers/defenders/etc... was started and it had the "humor" disclaimed no one would complain right?

Oh wait, that's no what happens. People get up in arms if you call 'em 4e apologists and warnings are handed out. Right right... I gotcha. Putting humor there makes it all cool.

[amethal]

Originally Posted by Grimstaff

I have decided to be nice to the 4E haters in this forum, because I have come to the conclusion that they are somewhat lonely, and probably a little sad.

I draw my evidence from the fact that they come here at all.

For example, I abhor basketball. I never visit basketball websites, or post vitriol on the various teams' messageboards with stuff like, "Why the Lakers are ruining my favorite game!" or whatever. Since I do not like something, I do not participate in online discussions about it.

On the other hand, I love Radiohead. So I participate in discussions on their messageboards. Its great. And, oddly, I never see posts like "how In Rainbows (their new album) means Radiohead sucks now!" or anything like that. As if, folks who don't like Radiohead have better things to do with their time.

Yet here is a site for 4E, and haters post hate. And doom and gloom. Why?

Why not just post happy stuff on forums for stuff they do like, like 3E or 2E or 1E or whatever, rather than taking the time to come to a 4E forum and whine?

Must be lonely...

There's no such thing as fourth edition yet, so nobody can hate it. In fact, we all want to love and embrace it. (There may be people who prefer playing out of print games on principle, but I've never met any of them.)

However "the spirit of D&D" means vastly different things to different people, so some people are finding the game they love is moving in a direction they don't like.

Some of those people consider this unfortunate state of affairs to be a big deal, and like discussing it on D&D message boards.

[Doug McCrae]

What if Radiohead decided to go in a new direction musically with their new album? Like if they decided to experiment with ska or hip hop or metal or something. And a lot of the fans loved this new direction but equally a lot of them hated it.

And they set aside a forum on the messageboard specifically to discuss the new album. Result? Massive argument.

Well, until the haters leave. Which is what's happening here, slowly.

[Gundark]

In before it's closed :P

[epochrpg]

In before the lock (despite humor disclaimer).

I think that if you visited a sports teams page-- say the Lakers-- you would find plenty of hate-- things like "what were they smoking when they decided to trade that player/fire that coach?", etc.

Those people are not posting there because they hate the team-- it is because they love the team and don't want to see it ruined. I would guess the same goes for the 4e Haters. They love D&D and don't want it to be ruined-- so they start posts complaining about the things they don't like.

[Rabelais]

Weeeee in before threadlock!

Ummmm Go Blazers, Seahawks, Mariners... Manchester United!

I've pretty much come around on 4e I think... I was never against it per se, but I'm not entirely thrilled with planned obsolesence.
Now? I'm looking forward to a game reset in my group. I kinda want to get back to some standard Sword and Board fighting.

Please don't post a poll about this thread. Enough is enough.

[Zaruthustran]

I'll try an honest answer before the lock.

I think the "4E haters" post here because they're D&D fans, and this is the best site in the world for D&D fans to voice their opinions.

I mean, if you're a fan of D&D then 4E is going to be on your mind. It's just what everyone in the D&D-playing community is talking about. Of course they're going to post here in the 4E forum, whether those posts are positive or negative. They post here because they know other ENWorlders care about the subject.

Makes sense to me!

[jdrakeh]

Please, bear my children.

[JoeGKushner]

Originally Posted by jdrakeh

Please, bear my children.

Bear children?