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Old 19th April 2008, 04:13 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Appreciate you including them...

...but, I have to say, I really hope this isn't how things are in the monster manual. This seems to me to be an unnecessary obfuscation. Now I have to remember a bunch of new symbols and what they mean?

Why not just have R for ranged, M for melee, C for cone and B for blast.

Or would that be too easy?
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Old 19th April 2008, 04:17 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Appreciate you including them...

...but, I have to say, I really hope this isn't how things are in the monster manual. This seems to me to be an unnecessary obfuscation. Now I have to remember a bunch of new symbols and what they mean?Why not just have R for ranged, M for melee, C for cone and B for blast.

Or would that be too easy?
But then we would need to remember that R is for ranged, M for melee, C for cone and B for blast, right?

Edit: Oops, I just remembered that C is for close and B for burst. See, images work better

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Old 19th April 2008, 07:42 AM   #43 (permalink)
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I don't think I've ever seen that used, and I'm not sure what it would mean. The basic melee is the one you use for opportunity attacks and charges - how basic applies to a ranged attack, I don't know. Regardless, Wizards has one on their site here, as well as basic close and basic burst.
Supposedly "Feather yon Oaf" allows allies to make free basic ranged attacks; Some of the conditions in the Minis rules disallow nonbasic attacks, dazed among them iirc.

Of the Experience pre-gens all the martial characters (and the paladin) can make basic ranged attacks with a bow or thrown weapon, and the arcane powers Magic Missile and Eldritch Blast both make basic ranged attacks.
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Old 19th April 2008, 07:59 AM   #44 (permalink)
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good idea. I've always wondered why the white wolf forums didn't have a dot smiley.
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Old 19th April 2008, 08:02 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Why not just have R for ranged, M for melee, C for cone and B for blast.
And what for burst?

(Incidentally, powers marked with "TM"s mean "'Tis Mince", while those with "TM"s mean "'Tain't Mince".)

Also - Ondo's most recent dice images look fantastic, and I hope they are adopted quickly! Thanks for all these contributions, Ondo!
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Slightly OT, but is there some way to make the Reply to Thread window display a list of available emotes? I can see the emotes when I quote Morrus' text, but I dunno if I'm gonna remember "bmelee" ( ) et al.
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Old 19th April 2008, 10:46 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Hello,

In case it could help, I worked a bit on a D&D 4e Icon font to be used in used in publications.

Here : D&D 4e Icons.ttf

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Old 19th April 2008, 11:57 AM   #48 (permalink)
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I know that's a joke - but I think there's a reason why the MtG guys have introduced these symbols. Say what you want, but MtG is WotC's no. 1 cash cow. This means they must have done something right - so they're definitively not stupid.

If D&D can take a page from them, I'm all for it! And compressing things into a single symbol that is easily understood sounds like something good.

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Hello,

In case it could help, I worked a bit on a D&D 4e Icon font to be used in used in publications.

Here : D&D 4e Icons.ttf

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I only took a quick look at the font, but I couldn't see a non-basic melee attack.
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Slightly OT, but is there some way to make the Reply to Thread window display a list of available emotes? I can see the emotes when I quote Morrus' text, but I dunno if I'm gonna remember "bmelee" ( ) et al.
I get a box of clickable smilies when I reply or post. Perhaps it's a setting in your control panel?
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I only took a quick look at the font, but I couldn't see a non-basic melee attack.
I think it's 'w'

So we got :
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  • - c
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Appreciate you including them...

...but, I have to say, I really hope this isn't how things are in the monster manual. This seems to me to be an unnecessary obfuscation. Now I have to remember a bunch of new symbols and what they mean?

Why not just have R for ranged, M for melee, C for cone and B for blast.

Or would that be too easy?
Except that it's R for ranged, M for melee, C for close and A for area.

With 26 letters available, people would just become too creative. The symbols are a nice closed set.
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The font looks great, but it needs the dice icons...
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The font looks great, but it needs the dice icons...
Definitely ! I just didn't find any good definition image in the Miniature handbook, so if anyone can give me a link, I'll add the dice icons to the font.
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Well, I kit-bashed some dice into the font and changed the lettering

a -
c -
r -
w -
b -
1 -
2 -
3 -
4 -
5 -
6 -

holding shift whit r c & a will give you basic icons of those attacks.

Edit... I've printed them at 12 and 8 pt and they are all legible, but I think that the dice need to be a little smaller. I'll try and have that finished by tomorrow. (I've got to go to work.)
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I don't think we will ever need the because if a rechargeable power recharges on a , it will be an At-Will powers instead
Good work everyone, EnWorld is officially the first 4E-friendly forum.
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These are great. I'm not even going 4e but I'm gonna use them while posting. As in...

That is a stupid idea!

or

You and what army?

or
I see you are surprised.



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I don't think I've ever seen that used, and I'm not sure what it would mean.
I'm not sure that we've seen the symbol for basic ranged attacks, but we've definitely seen them.
For one, Magic Missile is a basic ranged attack for the wizard, and Eldritch Blast is a basic ranged attack for the warlock.
Also, some of the monsters we've seen had a lower-case r for the attack type (signifying basic ranged) in addition to upper case letters (signifying non-basic attacks).
I don't think we've seen basic close or basic area attacks anywhere, though. But maybe we might want those as well?
Edit:
Ok, those I had were not good.
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Edit... I've printed them at 12 and 8 pt and they are all legible, but I think that the dice need to be a little smaller. I'll try and have that finished by tomorrow. (I've got to go to work.)
Not only smaller, I think they should have rounded corners...
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