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Yep, and that could be very exciting if handled well.
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I feel the same, it feels like a wild barbarian defender type. Maybe empowered by spirits to adi him in battle???
A couple of pages ago, there was a link to pictures of a party of minis made up only of PHBII classes, and at least two were shapeshifted (one was a salamander and the other was a wolf, IIRC). I bet the Warden is a shapeshifting defender, and Salamander is one of the forms they get. It makes sense, since Wild Shape was so versatile, that the druid and its forms got split up into defender ones and controller ones.
That would answer my question about what a Primal Defender would be!
I had anticipated that class to be divine. Which comes out first the Arcane splatbook or the Divine one? I'm wondering what else we'll be getting in terms of Divine classes prior to that book since Arcane looks to be fairly filled out by the end of PHB2. Any chances for a new divine class in the Eberron setting (I'm unfamiliar) that might be included in addition to the Artificer?
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So I guess the only ones we don't know are T and I. I'm sure they are divine, my guess would be divine controller and divine striker... But I can't imagine what a divine striker would be...
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So I guess the only ones we don't know are T and I. I'm sure they are divine, my guess would be divine controller and divine striker... But I can't imagine what a divine striker would be...
My bets are Theurge (divine/controller) and Inquisitor (divine/striker).
I believe the first will be centered in buff/debuff in areas and the second will be a high damage against specific creatures (undeads, demons) or will be something like a striker/leader.
Other thing, as the PHBII release aproaches seems the dragons is leaking previews each month, barbarian in 368 and bard in 369, so what preview do you want to see in the 370? I am betting in the druid or the sorcerer (or both), so you can see a little of the new controllers...
My bets are Theurge (divine/controller) and Inquisitor (divine/striker).
I believe the first will be centered in buff/debuff in areas and the second will be a high damage against specific creatures (undeads, demons) or will be something like a striker/leader.
Other thing, as the PHBII release aproaches seems the dragons is leaking previews each month, barbarian in 368 and bard in 369, so what preview do you want to see in the 370? I am betting in the druid or the sorcerer (or both), so you can see a little of the new controllers...
That seems to make sense that the book will be split:
2 arcane/2 divine/4 primal ... it fits with the 2/2/4 build of the first PHB, plus it allows for Complete Arcana, Complete Divine and Complete Primal to all have similar set-ups to Complete Martial. The interesting thing is that arcane gets more love since they have a class in both the FR player's guide, and will have one in the Eberon guide as well. I wonder if the non-PHB classes will be supported in the Power books (we have seen drow/genasi getting support in Martial Power so far).
Does AoE stuff with it, including (at higher levels) ranged blasts. Shouts and fears people away, with the weaker foes literally dying of fright (i.e. psychic damage).
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Welcome, eleventh! There have been many attempts at a martial controller in the House Rules forum. I haven't especially followed that topic myself, so I can't recommend a specific thread, but you can probably find something poking around that forum.
That seems to make sense that the book will be split:
2 arcane/2 divine/4 primal ... it fits with the 2/2/4 build of the first PHB, plus it allows for Complete Arcana, Complete Divine and Complete Primal to all have similar set-ups to Complete Martial. The interesting thing is that arcane gets more love since they have a class in both the FR player's guide, and will have one in the Eberon guide as well. I wonder if the non-PHB classes will be supported in the Power books (we have seen drow/genasi getting support in Martial Power so far).
The arcane has reference to the swordmage, the artificer i dont know.
You make me think what to expect in the future classes of settings:
Ravenloft - Shadow power source, maybe the necromancer...
Darksun - Psionic or Elemental power source
Dragonlance - Divine power source
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Heh, no offense meant. Usually martial controller suggestions are something like "whipmaster", "monk", or "trick archer", where the controller has a lot of powers that tie people up, throw them around the room, or affect areas with storms of arrows.
I haven't really seen one I thought was too convincing so far - the idea of a guy firing arrows at assault rifle rate of fire is just a bit too outlandish for the martial power source, in my opinion.
I don't have a ddi subscription so I can't point to it in the original source.
However, according to a thread discussing the recent minotaur article ( Playing Minotaurs ), the article mentions the "Warden" as a class that the minotaur is suited for.
This may be the "W" class that will be in the PHB2 (and also suggests that the warden is best served by strength and or constitution abilities since those are the minotaur's racial bonuses).
Of course, this isn't hard confirmation, just conjecture based on the use of the class name, the timing, and an unknown "W" class in the PHB2.
The confirmation is in the Digital Insider #14: Closed Beta article.
My bets are Theurge (divine/controller) and Inquisitor (divine/striker).
I believe the first will be centered in buff/debuff in areas and the second will be a high damage against specific creatures (undeads, demons) or will be something like a striker/leader.
Other thing, as the PHBII release aproaches seems the dragons is leaking previews each month, barbarian in 368 and bard in 369, so what preview do you want to see in the 370? I am betting in the druid or the sorcerer (or both), so you can see a little of the new controllers...
Theurge! You're probably right. I was wracking my brain trying to think what the T would stand for.
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The 4e psionic leader should be called The Seer. 100%
How is that not 'lame'?
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If they call it an empath, and I agree that there would even be a lot of empathing going on with the class, I'm not buying the PHBIII.
Frankly, I don't care about the class's name as long as it's implemented well.
We already have lots of class names that sound 'lame' or don't accurately describe the class's concept. It's bad enough we'll get yet another class starting with 'War', already: the Warden - yuck!
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