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Am I the only one who sees this as blatantly obvious? Ki is confirmed in the PHB. Though since it has not been released i think you can be forgiven
It's obvious once you know/strongly suspect there's a ki power source (assuming WotC won't change their mind about monk=striker from races and classes). Before that, not so much.
Am I the only one who sees this as blatantly obvious? Ki is confirmed in the PHB. Though since it has not been released i think you can be forgiven
I usually lurk, but after reading the 6th monk = divine/psi controller I dropped my head into the keyboard and posted
Thank you!!! It just seemed way obvious to me if they were including the ki power source.
I fully suspect the PHBII will include the psionic power source because the Eberron campaign setting will be coming out and psionics plays a significant role in that world. Also, the one class likely to be included in the ECS is the Artificer. I totally see this class as a leader/controller. They can buff up their party members with their infusions to armour/weapons and then they could infuse a variety of implements to mimic the powers of wizards/warlocks/clerics.
I really like the idea of the Telpath (psionic leader) and Kineticist(psionic controller). While the Lurk appears to me to be a better striker, there's something a little more iconic to the soulknife being the psionic striker instead. I'm a little worried about the pyschic warrior being another swordmage. Maybe they'll make the Soulknife a psionic defender instead and keep the lurk as a striker.
I'm really curious as to what they plan to do with the elemental power source. Since I have no clue what former 3E classes mesh with this power source. I've seen the shugenja/wujen but they were just clerics/wizards with a slightly different spell selection and flavour.
Added Elemental and Ki as confirmed power sources, as reported by people who have the Player's Handbook.
Really? That is pretty depressing. Those two were my least favorite Power Source concepts. Elemental doesn't do anything that couldn't be handled by Arcane, and Ki doesn't really do anything that wouldn't be better suited as Martial, Divine, Arcane, or Psionic.
I guess I may be able to make peace with Ki if they give us a proper samurai who can perform a long-ranged wind slash attack and other such things, but if it is just another name for an "Asian Martial" Power Source I will be very disappointed.
On Gamer Radio Zero Mike Mearls lists the first letters of each class in the PHB2 - D, R, B, W, I, T, S, S. He also says "I think only three of those are classes that anyone has ever seen before. I think the other ones are all new classes, completely new to Dungeons & Dragons." (source, at about 8:30 in the video.)
Keith Baker says "you can expect to see an early version of the artificer in next month's Dragon. I don't know if it will be the full class or a partial build, but it should give you something to work with." (source)
I wonder if there'll ever be a martial controller. What would that look like?
He'd be a tinkerer who throws grenades, flash bombs, and nets that do area damage, cause blindness, and restrain, respectively. Sort of like an artificer but without infusing magic into anything--it'd be all realworld oriented powers.
I don't see how you could do him realistically without each attack costing money, though . . . .
Could be psion disciplines (Shaper, Seer, Telepath), or other psionic classes (Soulknife, War Mind), but I wouldn't bet on any of that.
Personally hoping for a general psion class that does a lot of moving things around/messing with the enemies' minds (with possibly build options specializing in either), but we'll see.
Another thing is that he could have thought Psion, and forgot it started with a "P" that's silent. He didn't guarantee he got all of them right or possible mentioned one twice.
On Gamer Radio Zero Mike Mearls lists the first letters of each class in the PHB2 - D, R, B, W, I, T, S, S. He also says "I think only three of those are classes that anyone has ever seen before. I think the other ones are all new classes, completely new to Dungeons & Dragons." (source, at about 8:30 in the video.)
If Psionics makes it into PHB 2, then R, W, and T are likely psionic classes. I guess most likely we're looking at 3 primal, 3 psionic, 1 arcane, and 1 divine class, give/take 1 from the first two power sources. A shift to the other two power sources seems less likely.
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Well, now we know that the bard isn't making an appearance in a PHB 'til at least 2010, since the barbarian is all but assured.
Not necessarily true. In one of the threads for DDI, they said that they're releasing one of the classes that was originally slated for PHB2 early in an electronic format.
They're doing the same to Artificers (due out next month on DDI).
So we might see it around the same time next year?
The classes don't exist in a vacuum, I think that's important to remember. They have to plan the release of products around the release of classes, with their current plan for "splatbooks."
It's a fairly safe bet that they want to get the Arcane Power and Divine Power sourcebooks out there as soon as possible to get more options out on the core sources (to wizard players especially.) They're already whipping out an article this month that will include more illusionist-based wizard spells, recognizing that a lot of people were unhappy with the wizard's power selection.
Since new classes are supposed to only appear in PHBs and CPGs (Campaign Player's Guides) I think they're going to want to more or less "complete" the arcane and divine power sources by PHB2, and then put out both sourcebooks that year. If not, they'll definitely go with Arcane first, then Divine in 2010.
In addition to "completing" the arcane and divine sources, I think they also are starting to recognize they painted themselves into a corner a bit with the arcane and divine stuff by only have two classes out for each. It seems clear they feel the need to expand arcane powers since that's the first Class Acts article they're doing in the month of release, as opposed to providing a partial write-up on one of the missing classes so that more people convert to the new edition. They want to get more material out there quickly, but unless they change their production ideas around considerably, they have to wait to release the most of their planned arcane classes for maximum effect. So I think with PHB2 they'll try to "complete" the Primal power source in one shot, as well. That's a very long-winded way of saying that I think the Shaman is a given, and so we'll see Shaman, Barbarian, Druid, and one other from Primal, plus two divine and two arcane.
I have a feeling that Psionics are getting pushed back a year, so that they can have a more or less full contingent of arcane, divine, and primal classes. That gives them the opportunity to release three new power source splat books whenever they feel they're needed, rather than having to wait, if they see the need to expand on certain classes.
On Gamer Radio Zero Mike Mearls lists the first letters of each class in the PHB2 - D, R, B, W, I, T, S, S. He also says "I think only three of those are classes that anyone has ever seen before. I think the other ones are all new classes, completely new to Dungeons & Dragons." (source, at about 8:30 in the video.)
I bet they're actually seperating the Psion's disciplines into actual classes to give some flavour, so that 'T' is most likely Telepath.
As Shaman has been mentioned and Sorceror confirmed, I think the S's are covered.
Druid and Barbarian will be the D and B.
Which leaves... R, W and I. As they've talked about a Divine Controller I imagine one of them will be it... Incarnate? That's a good name for someone who's offensively channeling divine power (if they've cut warforged built-in armour they'll probably not be doing Incarnum's built-in magic items).
) - Arcane Defender/else Shaman - Primal Leader
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