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Old 27th May 2008, 08:13 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I'm hoping the deadly trickster ends up like Jack Sparrow at the end of the 3rd movie.
I'm not sure that 'completely crazy', 'compulsively treacherous' and 'indeterminable sexuality' are really useful and appropriate epic destiny features
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Old 27th May 2008, 08:13 PM   #22 (permalink)
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So that means we have all 8 power sources that WotC said they were looking at, right?

Arcane
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Plus, the unofficial ninth power source: Ignorance
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Old 27th May 2008, 08:17 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I'm not sure that 'completely crazy', 'compulsively treacherous' and 'indeterminable sexuality' are really useful and appropriate epic destiny features
I must vigorously disagree.
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Old 27th May 2008, 08:18 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I'm not sure that 'completely crazy', 'compulsively treacherous' and 'indeterminable sexuality' are really useful and appropriate epic destiny features
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Having just looked over the Deadly Trickster it seems to have a favored by fortune flavor. They get an ability which lets them force the DM to roll a 1 with no chance to reroll as well as a Daily Utility that recovers all HP, healing surges, automatically save against all effect on them, plus recover either all their encounter powers or all other daily powers.
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Old 27th May 2008, 08:22 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I am a bit confused by the elemental power source. The wizard already throws energy around. Also, to one extent or another, can most of the other arcane or divine casters. Primal will probably get in on that action to. So whats the point of this one?
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Having just looked over the Deadly Trickster it seems to have a favored by fortune flavor. They get an ability which lets them force the DM to roll a 1 with no chance to reroll as well as a Daily Utility that recovers all HP, healing surges, automatically save against all effect on them, plus recover either all their encounter powers or all other daily powers.
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Old 27th May 2008, 08:30 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Having just looked over the Deadly Trickster it seems to have a favored by fortune flavor. They get an ability which lets them force the DM to roll a 1 with no chance to reroll as well as a Daily Utility that recovers all HP, healing surges, automatically save against all effect on them, plus recover either all their encounter powers or all other daily powers.
Wow... thats, uh, well, so much better than the Archmage utility. In every single way. You sure it does all of that? Because getting one daily power back as a standard action doesn't even measure against that. At all
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Old 27th May 2008, 08:31 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I am a bit confused by the elemental power source. The wizard already throws energy around. Also, to one extent or another, can most of the other arcane or divine casters. Primal will probably get in on that action to. So whats the point of this one?
Primal probably less so (it seems to have more of a shapeshifting/weather focus), and Divine seems to be more of a Radiant/Necrotic focus. Still, it seems quite odd, also having both Martial and Ki. Is there some hint at the flavors of the power sources?
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Are they cool enough that we won't need to worry about the limited number of epic destinies being tedious for awhile?
Actually, I am almost sure it was a hard decision after they ran out of space.

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Wow... thats, uh, well, so much better than the Archmage utility. In every single way. You sure it does all of that? Because getting one daily power back as a standard action doesn't even measure against that. At all
I think that's more meant to compare to the Arcane Spirit ability. That's the Deadly Trickster's "Not dead yet!" ability.
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One question, if you would be so gracious, and then I'll be utterly content to read the answers to everyone else's.

Can you briefly describe the differences of being various sizes (just small, medium, and large will do)? This is an item that has come up in a race that me and my team of creators are working on.
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Wow... thats, uh, well, so much better than the Archmage utility. In every single way. You sure it does all of that? Because getting one daily power back as a standard action doesn't even measure against that. At all
It is even worse... Epic Trick is only a minor action..... yeah...



Ki is described as manipulating the power of your soul's energy, so I guess that is why they aren't lumping it in with martial.


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I'm not sure that 'completely crazy', 'compulsively treacherous' and 'indeterminable sexuality' are really useful and appropriate epic destiny features
Mr Voss, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response was there anything that could even be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. -Adam Sandler

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I'm planning on playing a Dragonborn for my first character so I've got a few questions on them. For starters there were rumors floating around that DB's could possibly fly at some point? Also what stats are you able to pick to add to the DB's Breath weapon?
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Only size description I could find was detailing how many squares things occupied, how that meshed with terrain rules, and how far the creatures reach was.

Small and Medium use the same rules, while large creatures occupy a 2x2 on the map and have reach 2 if they are tall.
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Do the other size categories still exist? I hope colossal does, because I just bought the red dragon :/
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I fully expect this post to be over 20 pages long when I get home tonight.

All the information you can provide on the 2 warlock pacts we haven't seen would be awesome, and maybe a high level ability example that seems representative for each pact? Hehe.
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