Can a PC choose to fail (or not roll) a save !?

[Mort_Q]

Can a PC choose to fail (or not roll) a save !?

What might be potentially useful, or broken for PCs if they could?

Here's one possibility, but I don't think it's borken

Eye of the Warlock, Warlock (Star) Utility 16

[Tale]

Your consideration with that power is casting it on the Fighter, then standing back to blast the front lines? Sounds neat enough.

[Mort_Q]

Not just that, although that is nice if you're immobilized or whatever.

Being able to see through their eyes could lead to some interesting tactics.

Could you aid other for perception checks?

Using other powers to communicate, could you do a Cyrano de Bergerac type thing?

[Terwox]

According to PHB p. 279, looks like you have to roll.

[Obryn]

While it's not specifically covered in the rules, I don't see why not.

-O

[Dragonbait]

This is a case where the letter of the law and the spirit of the law will probably differ.

[Mort_Q]

Originally Posted by Dragonbait

This is a case where the letter of the law and the spirit of the law will probably differ.

In your opinion, what is the letter or the law (RAW)? The spirit (RAI)?

[amysrevenge]

Originally Posted by Mort_Q

In your opinion, what is the letter or the law (RAW)? The spirit (RAI)?

RAW, PH 279: "At the end of your turn, you make a saving throw against each effect on you..." There aren't even any 3E-style hedge words like "can" or "may", you just do it.

RAI: Pure speculation on my part, but effects that have "save ends" are intended to be used against foes, not friends.

[Dragonbait]

Originally Posted by Mort_Q

In your opinion, what is the letter or the law (RAW)? The spirit (RAI)?

Edit: Amysrevenge did a better job on summing it up that I did.

[amysrevenge]

Although on consideration, I'd possibly allow it in my own game, just because it's neat-o and reasonably clever.

If it ended up being used consistently though, I'd probably stop "forgetting" to enforce the saving throw.

Big Mike
Calgary AB

[Obscure]

In the case where forced movement forces a target into a hazard, the target can make an immediate saving throw and fall prone next to the hazard instead of going into it.

What if the target would rather go into the hazard than fall prone? Say it's a tiefling being pushed into a firepit when there's a monster with sneak attack nearby. He might take the firepit over being prone.

[burntgerbil]

When I first read eye of the warlock weeks ago, I assumed the save did not apply if you were using it on an ally. The power seems reasonable this way - but an ally making a save to prevent it from happening would severely nerf the ability.

What I think the power implies is that a save will end the appearance of the third eye on the target's brow after using a power through it. The power says the eye appears briefly - it seems to me to be right. It is awkwardly written, but I feel that was the powers intent.

[Mort_Q]

Originally Posted by burntgerbil

What I think the power implies is that a save will end the appearance of the third eye on the target's brow after using a power through it.

If that's the case, then there is no limit on the number of powers you could pump through the target. You can keep using it until they get killed by someone else (friend or foe) or until the end of the encounter. That's a little much.