Ritual Casting and Scrolls

[DM Magic]

I'm confused by this line from page 299 of the Player's Hanbook:

Originally Posted by Player's Handbook

You can perform a scroll’s ritual even if you don’t have the Ritual Caster feat, regardless of the level of the ritual.

Does that mean someone without the Ritual Casting feat can cast a ritual from a scroll from any level? For example, can a 2nd-level fighter cast a 30th-level ritual from a scroll?

Quotes from the Player's Handbook would be awesome!

[keterys]

Yes. *points at the quote you provided*

[DM Magic]

Originally Posted by keterys

Yes. *points at the quote you provided*

Does anything else find this... strange?

[doctorhook]

Originally Posted by DM Magic

Does anything else find this... strange?

Well, recall that ritual scrolls have a GP value in game, and as such are only appropriate gear/treasure for a narrow range of characters. A 2nd-level Fighter who finds (read: whose DM gives him) a 30th-level ritual scroll is in basically the same situation as the 2nd-level Fighter with a 30th-level magic sword.

[Psybuster]

It may be strange, but since a ritual scroll is expended on one use and costs as much to create (and presumably purchase as a result) compared to a ritual scribed into a book which lasts "forever," it seems like the trade-off is intentional.

[DM Magic]

Originally Posted by doctorhook

Well, recall that ritual scrolls have a GP value in game, and as such are only appropriate gear/treasure for a narrow range of characters. A 2nd-level Fighter who finds (read: whose DM gives him) a 30th-level ritual scroll is in basically the same situation as the 2nd-level Fighter with a 30th-level magic sword.

That's a really good point!

Thanks!

[doctorhook]

Originally Posted by DM Magic

That's a really good point!

Thanks!

[Falling Icicle]

Originally Posted by DM Magic

Does anything else find this... strange?

Yes. I'm not very fond of how scrolls work in 4e.

[keterys]

I actually really like it - lets you simulate things like invocations or plot magic far more easily.

[Falling Icicle]

Originally Posted by keterys

I actually really like it - lets you simulate things like invocations or plot magic far more easily.

That it does, I just dislike that one doesn't need the feat to use a scroll and that one can't copy a ritual into their book from a scroll, as one could in previous editions. I think the cost is a bit excessive as well. A cost of component + X would have been more fair, IMO.