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Dwarven Weapon Training and Adventurer's Vault Weapons
Does the DWT feat in the PHB give a dwarven character proficiency in all of the superior axes and hammers? It seems to be an absolute no-brainer for any dwarven fighter, paladin, ranger, etc. You get a better weapon, and a +2 damage bonus, all for a single feat.
Does the DWT feat in the PHB give a dwarven character proficiency in all of the superior axes and hammers? It seems to be an absolute no-brainer for any dwarven fighter, paladin, ranger, etc. You get a better weapon, and a +2 damage bonus, all for a single feat.
The feat says you gain proficiency and +2 to damage "with axes and hammers," so yes, it applies to the axes and hammers in AV as well. Nothing in the feat excludes superior weapons.
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Travis Stout
"An absolute monarchy is one in which the sovereign does as he pleases so long as he pleases the assassins."
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The Eladrin feat is unequivocal because it specifically says, "you gain proficiency with all spears." I wonder though if we will see errata on these feats.
Eladrin Weapon Training also gives training in the Trident, Tratnyr, Greatspear, and in greatest irony, the Urgrosh.
Well, the Urgrosh is half spear, half axe. As DM I would rule that you need proficiency with axes in order to fully use it (meaning the 1d12 part of it)
Quote from the RAW:
Urgrosh: Originally of dwarven make, this
weapon has a heavy axe head at one end (dealing d12
damage) and a sharp spear point at the base of the
haft (dealing d8 damage).
Hmm. So I assume if a Ranger has Weapon Focus (Spear) and uses Twin Strike, he only gets to add his damage to the 1d8 end, not to the 1d12 end?
-Hyp.
Nope. Per the rules, if a weapon has multiple types, you get the full benefit of any effect that works with any of those types. There's nothing in the description of double weapons on p. 10 of Adventurer's Vault to contradict that, so if you're proficient with spears you're proficient with an Urgrosh, and if you have Weapon Focus (spear) you get a +2 to damage with any Urgrosh attack.
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Travis Stout
"An absolute monarchy is one in which the sovereign does as he pleases so long as he pleases the assassins."
--Ambrose Bierce
In situations like these I find it unproductive to worry whether or not it's intended to work a certain way and prefer to just look at whether or not it should work a certain way.
Eladrin is not a great race for any spear-wielding class, so I say go ahead and give them a free superior proficiency; it'll make them more balanced, not less.
Dwarves are pretty good at certain melee classes already, but I don't think it would break anything to let them to have a superior proficiency too. I mean it just saves them one feat. Not really a big deal.
Dwarves are basically the best, most all around useable race in the PHB before this!
Dwarves are good for melee, but I wouldn't say the best. The dragonborn's +2 to str is a big big factor. And dragonborn get an extra attack every fight which is also useful.
If a dwarf takes their training feat and dragonborn takes weapon focus, they both get an effective +2 to damage. And of course teh dragonborn's feat gets better at higher tiers and he still has that critical +1 to attack rolls the dwarf does not.
The dwarf can now use better weapon, but the dragonborn can take another feat to get that. The dwarf has no feat to give him a +2 to str.
So I think the feat is fine as is, dragonborn fight with raw power, dwarves fight with skill and tradition.
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