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Old 10th October 2008, 11:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The effect mentions 1d6 [ts] Wisdom modifier. Does that mean 1d6 times your wisdom modifier?
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Old 11th October 2008, 02:23 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Yes.
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Old 11th October 2008, 12:59 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I could easily have missed something, but I couldn't find any other instances of something being multiplied by an ability modifier. Also [ts] isn't defined anywhere as far as I see.
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Old 11th October 2008, 01:05 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Probably a typographic code or something.
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Old 11th October 2008, 03:25 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Yes, it means 1d6 times your Wisdom modifier. They've corrected it in the errata.
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Old 11th October 2008, 03:43 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Yes, it means 1d6 times your Wisdom modifier. They've corrected it in the errata.
Where? I couldn't find it.
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Old 11th October 2008, 04:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Where? I couldn't find it.
It's not in the errata dates 8/11/08. I haven't been able to get to the 4e errata on the Wizards site to see if there is a newer update.

I suspect it's a plus your Wis, not a multiply by your Wis. 4e has very few things that multiply.
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It's not in the errata dates 8/11/08. I haven't been able to get to the 4e errata on the Wizards site to see if there is a newer update.
That's the one that is on WotC site.
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4e has very few things that multiply.
True, hence my perplexity in an earlier post.
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Old 11th October 2008, 09:51 PM   #9 (permalink)
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It is Times (as in multiplier), CS answered it and it was posted to a thread in June.

Another poster said it was shorthand and not corrected by the time it went to the printer.
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Another poster said it was shorthand and not corrected by the time it went to the printer.
Not a very useful shorthand... it just saves one character (not counting that to get the square brackets, you need to press extra keys)
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Not a very useful shorthand... it just saves one character (not counting that to get the square brackets, you need to press extra keys)
It's useful because you can type [ts] on a keyboard, whereas to insert the 'times' symbol requires some sort of outside intervention - switching to the Symbol font, or inserting a graphic, or whatever.

If the typist puts "1d6 x Wisdom modifier", and then the layout people do a Global Replace of "x" with a symbol, you end up with words like "example". Whereas it's unlikely that there will be any instance of "[ts]" that isn't intended to be replaced, so there's no danger in the Global Replace.

... except when you forget to do it.

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I actually meant writing [ts] instead of writing 'times' as a word... anyhow, I wasn't really serious.
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It's useful because you can type [ts] on a keyboard, whereas to insert the 'times' symbol requires some sort of outside intervention - switching to the Symbol font, or inserting a graphic, or whatever.
Hmmm, works for me with my keyboard — no special fonts, no graphics: ×, ×, ×.

Maybe it's time for you to get a new operating system.

But I agree this is likely the reason for the [ts] code.
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I actually meant writing [ts] instead of writing 'times' as a word... anyhow, I wasn't really serious.
It's not a "shorthand" in the sense of an abbreviation, it's a typographical note to tell the layout people to replace it with the multiplication symbol (which as others have pointed out is not just the lowercase letter x).
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It's not a "shorthand" in the sense of an abbreviation, it's a typographical note to tell the layout people to replace it with the multiplication symbol (which as others have pointed out is not just the lowercase letter x).
It's fascinating that my very stupid joke is generating more discussion that the actual rule...
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