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Well I'm glad someone is having luck with it because even with the Elven Precision feat, my Elf Cleric hardly ever seems to turn a miss into a hit.
Dang, sorry to hear about that... yes she even rerolled her missed daily Cascade Of Light and turned it into a critical which took down the boss Kobold from the DMG adventure.
I'm sure her luck can't hold out for too long... she will miss eventually... won't she????? oO''
If common house rules are used, it could be very dramatic:
Elf & Party are fighting an undead solo that is extremely tough but easy to hit, and it is down to a reasonably low number of HP finally, but if it goes again, may kill 2 or more party members...
Elf needs a 5 to hit, so chances are very good that they will not miss if rerolled, so elf chooses to try again:
If rolls a miss, bah, chances were great it wouldn't happen, but it CAN happen
If rolls a second hit, no loss, still a hit
If rolls a Critical Hit, YAY!!! The Elf gets a ton of damage through!!
If rolls a critical miss... oh.... bad tidings... bad tidings indeed...
Everyone could be sitting around watching THAT die roll...
The Halfling Racial power Second Chance is worded similarly, but from the enemy's perspective. "The enemy uses the second roll, even if it's lower." The halfling in my party uses this power every single encounter, and it seems that more often than not, turns the hit into a miss.
On the flipside, he has turned hits into crits, too. In fact, mathematically you're going to get critted every 20th time you use the power. Of course Elven Accuracy has the same 5% chance of the re-roll turning into a crit. I'm not sure the "even if it's lower" clause needs to be on either this or Elven Accuracy. It would be simple, easy and clear to just say "You(or 'The enemy') must use the second roll."
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Have to say that my experiences with Elven Accuracy have been pretty much down the middle. I'll agree it's nice to have for that one important shot, and I've generally used it only when my initial attack roll blew massive chunks (such as a natural 1) or if I know the encounter is pretty much over (use it or lose it as they say).
Am considering that feat that lets you get a +2 bonus on the reroll (can't recall the name and book ain't handy at the moment) to maybe help alleviate instances of the reroll being just as sucktastic as the original roll.
The Forgotten Realms Character Guide also has a feat that adds +1d4 to the reroll of Elven Accuracy [average 2.5 is better than 2] . I see no reason why it would not stack with the +2 PHB feat, either (Elven Precision). So if you wanted to spend the two feats you could have +4.5 average bonus on top of normal to hit bonus on the reroll.
The Forgotten Realms Character Guide also has a feat that adds +1d4 to the reroll of Elven Accuracy [average 2.5 is better than 2] . I see no reason why it would not stack with the +2 PHB feat, either (Elven Precision). So if you wanted to spend the two feats you could have +4.5 average bonus on top of normal to hit bonus on the reroll.
No reason why not at all. Wild Elf Luck gives an unnamed bonus. It's probably -intended- you take both at the same time.
The Forgotten Realms Character Guide also has a feat that adds +1d4 to the reroll of Elven Accuracy [average 2.5 is better than 2] . I see no reason why it would not stack with the +2 PHB feat, either (Elven Precision). So if you wanted to spend the two feats you could have +4.5 average bonus on top of normal to hit bonus on the reroll.
It's true, they would stack.
Wild Elf Luck and Elven Precision could be used together to get a reroll with +1d4+2 added to the result. Pretty strong, overall.
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There's no requirement that you use elven accuracy when you miss; one of the more ingenious uses of the ability is to drop an area of effect spell on a bunch of enemies surrounding an ally, and then reroll against the ally if you hit.
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