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They fixed the issue of Dual Strike and Twin Strike not showing off-hand attack and damage. The only problem is that the Double weapons are counted as a single weapon which is an issue for the Urgosh.
I have 5 players in one game and others that I share with. We didn't see any sort of internet connection when we first had the beta so I found a couple of players to go in on the subscription.
Well, good thing I've only found two or three other people to join me SO FAR!
Considering the game is made to run with five players and a DM, you'd think they'd allow more than 5 updates a month.
Well, then you just hope that the Mono Projects and related projects get WPF ready for Linux... Doesn't look like that's moving fast, though.
I did some analysis to see what features of WPF would be required for the app to work, and unfortunately it looks like there is no shortage of calls to Win32 API and Windows libraries mixed into the .NET code. If you want this app to work on other platforms you are going to need alot more than just WPF (wine should do the trick though).
It is a shame they didn't build it on Silverlight which would at least have support for Mac OS X.
I'm curious about people sharing the subscription... I wanted to do this but I wasn't sure if it was against TOS or not.
That said, I also wonder if you carefully watch the directory before updates (maybe do a dir > foo.txt or something, or make a copy) and after updates, and see if you can figure out which data files changed. Then go over to your other PC which has the program installed but not updated and try copying the data files. Of course, this also may be against the TOS, but uh, you'd only do this as a way of backing up your files in case you needed more than 5 updates in a single month for your personal use, because y'know, you have 3 home desktops, 2 laptops, and a work computer (where you actually have permission to install D&DI apps? ). Not to mention all the virtual machines.
I have 5 players in one game and others that I share with. We didn't see any sort of internet connection when we first had the beta so I found a couple of players to go in on the subscription.
Well, good thing I've only found two or three other people to join me SO FAR!
Considering the game is made to run with five players and a DM, you'd think they'd allow more than 5 updates a month.
So you breach the terms of service and you are concerned that they don't let you breach them enough?
So you breach the terms of service and you are concerned that they don't let you breach them enough?
Exactly.
I skimmed through the terms of service, and I didn't see a breach. Then again, I really only skimmed in the sense that I used word finder to try and find some keywords.
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Originally Posted by infocynic
That said, I also wonder if you carefully watch the directory before updates (maybe do a dir > foo.txt or something, or make a copy) and after updates, and see if you can figure out which data files changed. Then go over to your other PC which has the program installed but not updated and try copying the data files. Of course, this also may be against the TOS, but uh, you'd only do this as a way of backing up your files in case you needed more than 5 updates in a single month for your personal use, because y'know, you have 3 home desktops, 2 laptops, and a work computer (where you actually have permission to install D&DI apps? ). Not to mention all the virtual machines.
I've been considering looking into this. I figure it's all possible, just not easy.
Is it a breach of the terms of service to purchase a copy with 4 friends and all 5 of you use it? Because I thought that was exactly what this whole "5 updates" thing was supposed to facilitate.
I completely understand the position that 6 updates instead of 5 would have made more sense, especially since the "standard party" is now 1 DM and 5 players.
On the other hand, the way I'm reading how this works, so long as each person doesn't mind sitting a month out once every 6 months, it's not like you couldn't share the updates with 6 people; you'd just have to trade who missed a month each month. Or you could share a subscription with 30 people, so long as you only want to update twice a year.
I have 5 players in one game and others that I share with. We didn't see any sort of internet connection when we first had the beta so I found a couple of players to go in on the subscription.
Well, good thing I've only found two or three other people to join me SO FAR!
Considering the game is made to run with five players and a DM, you'd think they'd allow more than 5 updates a month.
Given it is intended to operate as one person, one subscription, and you are violating their terms of service by using it in the fashion you are trying to use it, I would count yourself very lucky you get 5 uses!
I skimmed through the terms of service, and I didn't see a breach. Then again, I really only skimmed in the sense that I used word finder to try and find some keywords.
I've been considering looking into this. I figure it's all possible, just not easy.
"You may not create, facilitate, host, advertise, promote, link to or provide any other means through which the Program may be accessed, distributed, modified, downloaded or used by others."
"You must have authorized and separate Program access for each account you wish it to be enabled for and you must download and install the Program on each machine on which you wish to use and access the Program; you may be charged for each account used to access the Program and/or each copy of the Program or its Components. "
I don't disagree with your bolded legalese, but doesn't it seem strange that the license agreement would be written to apparently make this only usable by one person when they give you 5 updates (a month) and talk as if you are ok to share those with your group? Again: apparently they do not intend for you to share it, but it still seems strange to me.
Is there any way to install it to a PC without an internet connection? I know if you can connect to the internet once to download the database you should be set, but what if the computer you want to install it on doesn't have internet access? (or has a really, really crappy connection)
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I don't disagree with your bolded legalese, but doesn't it seem strange that the license agreement would be written to apparently make this only usable by one person when they give you 5 updates (a month) and talk as if you are ok to share those with your group? Again: apparently they do not intend for you to share it, but it still seems strange to me.
You might have multiple home PCs. I know I have computers in my house. One of the desktops I don't use, but the other two computers (one is a laptop) are mine. Then factor in someone could conceivably have 3-4 and the possibility of a crash on one, needs to format the HD, or something. Ultimately, 5 seems to be a good threshold where you really should be covered in 99% of situations without totally letting people go nuts with it.
I remember them talking about sharing between groups a while back. They said something along the lines of the players making characters while giving the DM access to all of them.
I don't disagree with your bolded legalese, but doesn't it seem strange that the license agreement would be written to apparently make this only usable by one person when they give you 5 updates (a month) and talk as if you are ok to share those with your group? Again: apparently they do not intend for you to share it, but it still seems strange to me.
Looks like the license agreement was written for the courtroom, while the code was written for the real world.
Yeah, I'd use three downloads just in my house. My main computer, the one in the game room, and my laptop. That's just personal use, no sharing, and I'm at 3. Five seems a safe number for one person when you consider that.
I'm right now using the Character Builder within a VM without any problem:
Ubuntu 8.10 - Vbos 2.1.2 - Windows Xp Home.
I don't know where you get that idea, but it's just wrong.
Leaving the 'tude aside, you're right. I was thinking of trying to run it using CrossOver, which doesn't support .Net. Using VBox, I'd still need a full copy of Windows.
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