Attack of opportunity

Kaloran · 10th February 2009, 06:33 PM

hello everyone ... i was asking myself if there was a way to increase the number of OA per round ... i took the daily stance Cobra-Spitting Stance (ranger - martial power) and was wondering if i could make it even more useful

Duelpersonality · 10th February 2009, 06:38 PM

If you're looking for something along the lines of 3.x's Combat Reflexes feat, that's essentially built into the system now.

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Originally Posted by PHB, pg. 290

One per Combatant’s Turn: You can take only one opportunity action during another combatant’s turn, but you can take any number during a round.

Any more than that and Spitting-Cobra Stance would be sort of pointless, wouldn't it? After all, if you could pop an enemy for every square it moved toward you, why would it even try?

Kaloran · 10th February 2009, 06:47 PM

thx for the explanation ... i was limiting myself to only one opportunity attack per round .. so if 5 ennemy was moving towards me i was making only one opportunity attack against one ennemy ... so you telling me .. that .. if 5 ennemy moving towards me (in close burst 5) ... i can make a single OA vs. each of them ?

Doctor Proctor · 10th February 2009, 06:54 PM

Yep. That's why you don't move towards an Archer using the Spitting Cobra's Stance. =)

Additionally, remember that Spitting Cobra gives you an Opportunity Action, not an Opportunity Attack. This is important for two reasons.

1) You can't make Opportunity Attacks with a ranged weapon. Opportunity Actions are not limited to only melee attacks though, which is why the stance works.

2) Things that specifically provide bonuses to an Opportunity Attack (such as the Fighter's Combat Superiority ability) wouldn't work with the Spitting Cobra Stance since it's an Opportunity Action.

Duelpersonality · 10th February 2009, 06:54 PM

Yep.

The real question is would a reasonable DM allow attacks granted by Spitting-Cobra Stance to function with Combat Superiority for a fighter multiclassed into ranger...

Edit: It's like you saw into the future, Doc.

Smeelbo · 10th February 2009, 07:31 PM

Immediate Actions once per round.
Opportunity Actions once per each other character's turn.
Neither can be done on your turn.

Spitting Cobra Stance is very nice indeed.

Smeelbo

Kaloran · 11th February 2009, 07:04 PM

thx for all your help

i havent noticed the difference between opportunity action and attack ...

Gelasis · 19th August 2009, 11:34 AM

Would shifting trigger an attack from Spitting Cobra Stance?

How about forced movement will this trigger an attack from Spitting Cobra Stance?

Tai · 19th August 2009, 12:29 PM

As far as I'm aware, shifting isn't moving, and neither is forced movement.

Oh, and if your DM wants to be a meanie, the best way to avoid having nastiness from Spitting Cobra Stance is for the monsters to all prepare actions, and then charge on the same turn. That way you only get to shoot one of them. Personally I think that's a rather low trick for a DM to pull, but I'd certainly do it as a player, so I guess it's swings and roundabouts

Diirk · 19th August 2009, 12:37 PM

Shifting and forced movement are both movement (hey its even in the name of the latter !), but they're exempt from opportunity attacks. Spitting Cobra Stance gives opportunity actions, though...

Forced Movement specifically states that it does not provoke opportunity attacks or other opportunity actions (PHB pg 285), but I think shifting is fair game for Spitting Cobra Stance.

Dr_Sage · 19th August 2009, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaloran

thx for the explanation ... i was limiting myself to only one opportunity attack per round .. so if 5 ennemy was moving towards me i was making only one opportunity attack against one ennemy ... so you telling me .. that .. if 5 ennemy moving towards me (in close burst 5) ... i can make a single OA vs. each of them ?

Just one thing. Its a close burst 4 in practical terms.

When they are 5 and move at least one square closer is like having a close 4 around you (helps in our table).

spayne · 19th August 2009, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr_Sage

Just one thing. Its a close burst 4 in practical terms.

When they are 5 and move at least one square closer is like having a close 4 around you (helps in our table).

Actually, since the OA is an interrupt it takes place when the enemy is still 5 squares away.

borg286 · 19th August 2009, 10:58 PM

I'd just like to point out that each monster has it's own turn, thus each moves on it's own turn therefore provoking an arrow from you for each monster as you have an OA / turn.
If a controler monster somehow told 2 of his minions to move through a power than you'd only get one shot off. But if each uses their move action to get closer to you then you get a pot shot on each.