Healer's Lore and Healing Word

zoroaster100 · 9th April 2009, 08:10 AM

Does the Cleric's Healer's Lore class feature boost healing for the cleric's Healing Word class feature? I had always assumed so, but I noticed on the Character Builder a note about the bonus healing is automatically added to all the cleric healing attack and utility powers, but not to Healing Word. That might just be an oversight in the program, but I wonder if this has been clarified, or if anyone with good sense of the 4E rules can advise on your opinion on this question.

DracoSuave · 9th April 2009, 08:18 AM

Should be. Healing Word is a Cleric power.

Maleketh · 9th April 2009, 09:47 AM

It's a cleric power, sure, but more importantly, it has the Healing keyword. It therefore benefits from Healer's Lore.

msherman · 9th April 2009, 02:11 PM

Does healer's lore apply to Healing keyword powers gained from items?

And if so, how does it combine with Exalted Armor? Do you get the bonus twice, once on the original Healing power and again on the 1d10+cha bonus from the Exalted Armor?

James McMurray · 9th April 2009, 03:51 PM

Healer's Lore specifically state that it applies to Cleric powers, so it won't help with items, multi-classed powers, half-elf Dillettante abilities, etc.

Jack99 · 9th April 2009, 10:48 PM

And it doesnt work with regeneration either, even though all cleric regen powers have the healing keyword.

jonshaft · 9th April 2009, 11:59 PM

I hate to be the fly in the ointment but technically healing word is a class feature, "The cleric has two class features that work like powers: Channel Divinity and healing word." PHB p62. But on the preceding page under healing word it says "Using the healing word power,". Ambiguous... yes, consistency is not overrated.

Jack99 · 10th April 2009, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jonshaft

I hate to be the fly in the ointment but technically healing word is a class feature, "The cleric has two class features that work like powers: Channel Divinity and healing word." PHB p62. But on the preceding page under healing word it says "Using the healing word power,". Ambiguous... yes, consistency is not overrated.

Technically, you are thinking too much about D&D. We know that HL affects HW. Witness any example published by WotC and lore is added to word.

zoroaster100 · 10th April 2009, 04:52 AM

I think everyone who said Healer's Lore applies is correct. Upon further examination, it seems that although the Character Builder automatically includes a note about the extra healing with cleric attack powers with the healing keyword, it does not do so for other cleric healing powers, such as cure light wounds (which are utility, rather than attack powers). I'll post this to the Character Builder folks to see if they can add the reminder about Healer's lore bonus healing to Healing Word and to the utility powers as well.

Should cleric powers with the healing key word which provide regeneration benefit from Healer's Lore, or are those outside its scope. If they were affected, I assume you'd only get the bonus one time, not every round.

DracoSuave · 10th April 2009, 07:50 AM

Regeneration isn't affected by healing lore. They changed their minds on that, issued updates. yadda yadda

Jack99 · 10th April 2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by zoroaster100

Should cleric powers with the healing key word which provide regeneration benefit from Healer's Lore, or are those outside its scope. If they were affected, I assume you'd only get the bonus one time, not every round.

I think someone has me on ignore!

Bagpuss · 10th April 2009, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by zoroaster100

I think everyone who said Healer's Lore applies is correct. Upon further examination, it seems that although the Character Builder automatically includes a note about the extra healing with cleric attack powers with the healing keyword, it does not do so for other cleric healing powers, such as cure light wounds (which are utility, rather than attack powers).

It's not just Utility powers as far as I can tell it only adds to Encounter Attack powers. Doesn't seem to add it to Daily Attack healing powers, or Encounter Utility powers.

Doesn't calculate the damage from Turn Undead correctly, but then I've logged all these well before the last update...

robsenworldaccount · 10th April 2009, 05:11 PM

Doesn't feel right.

I can understand not getting regen, but I would think that we could get healing on our utility powers.

Nail · 10th April 2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by robsenworldaccount

Doesn't feel right.

I can understand not getting regen, but I would think that we could get healing on our utility powers.

No worries, mate. It's a bug in the program (CharGen), not a feature of the rules.

Jack99 · 10th April 2009, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by robsenworldaccount

Doesn't feel right.

I can understand not getting regen, but I would think that we could get healing on our utility powers.

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Originally Posted by Nail

No worries, mate. It's a bug in the program (CharGen), not a feature of the rules.

What Nail said.